You are a funny guy. Paulista’s have nothing good to say... unless they are in Nevada, gettin’ the burning man goin’. Idiots, one and all.

Sorry to spoil your illusion but I am not, nor have I ever been a fan of Ron Paul. That whining pipsqueak makes me cringe when even I hear him talk.

I am a Conservative that is simply tired of some fools blaming libertarians for the problems of this nation when they have never had any political success at all in our nation. There are approximately 55 million registered Republicans but the Libertarian Party has 325,807 members with only 235,500 registered voters as of 2008. In the most recent Presidential election, the Libertarian Candidate received just under one percent of the vote. The Libertarian Party has no Representatives in the House and no Senators, plus they hold no Governorships or any other state-wide elected positions. In the individual State Legislatures, the LP does not control any upper house or lower house seats at all. There are approximately 55 million registered Republicans. It would take an insane madman or a pathetic fool to think libertarians have any part in the problems of our country.

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals -- if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
RONALD REAGAN, Reason Magazine, Jul. 1, 1975

Most of the rabblerousers here would never believe it, but libertarians are not a bunch of pot smoking queers. It has been ten years since I interacted with them, but almost all of them were quiet thoughtful solid citizens. This excerpt from a paper explaining the personality traits of most libertarians may give understanding and insight.

How to Select a Libertarian Presidential Candidate
(If You Must)

by David Bergland

The Rationals

Rationals need to be competent and to accumulate knowledge. They value science, theories, efficiency, ingenuity, logic and expertise. Rationals are ingenious and innovative, searching for the underlying systems and structures that explain events. They analyze everything and operate scientifically, applying principles to the facts to arrive at objective conclusions.

Rationals have a special strategic intelligence. They excel at identifying the material, manpower and methods needed to achieve ultimate objectives. They build the model or design the system that will lead to success. The Rational mind works best with concepts, theories and abstract principles.

Rational language tends to the scholarly and employs conditionals (if-then statements) and clear definitions in their communications.

Rationals prize precise, clear thinking and precise language. They do not like to repeat themselves. Rationals are independent thinkers, unimpressed by so-called established authority. Pragmatic and skeptical, they nonetheless can be persuaded by logic and evidence. Rationals tends to present a calm exterior, though their feelings run strong and deep.

Rationals are drawn to careers or projects that challenge the mind. They typically enter fields such as the sciences, including computer science, engineering, mathematics, physics, economics and philosophy. In business, Rationals are often found at the executive level where strategic thinking is highly valued. Einstein is the classic example of a Rational. Other famous Rationals are presidents Jefferson, Lincoln and Eisenhower, author/philosopher Ayn Rand, and (gasp) Hillary Clinton.

The smallest temperament group, Rationals are less than ten percent of the population. Most libertarians are Rationals. Birds of a feather do flock together. People of other Temperaments tend to miss the point of Rational arguments. What is important to Rationals is not important to them. Do you begin to see why libertarian "outreach" is so difficult?

Ultimately, the libertarian movement will grow in numbers and influence only if the freedom philosophy is made palatable to persons of all four temperaments. The challenge, to all of us libertarians who care, is to learn how to communicate to people who have different psychological needs and values so that they can see that libertarianism will meet their needs and support their values better than any other political approach. It won’t be easy; but it can be done.

November 12, 2004

How to Select a Libertarian Presidential Candidate (If You Must) by David Bergland

The full paper is at the link.

I must confess, as the son of a pioneering computer systems programmer/analyst from sixty years ago, and a telecommunications technician/project manager myself for forty years I do fit this profile to a tee.

I love the way you supporters of the radical left agenda of the libertarians, cling to that single quote of a Ronald Reagan speaking to a libertarian audience while he was campaigning for their vote.

Funny that you don’t seem to have anything else, and you don’t mention how even when being interviewed by them, in thst interview, he kept dismantling them in that interview and defending social conservatism and strong national defense.

I am a Conservative

No you aren't,you are for the politics that you fight so hard for.

Don't fight for libertarianism and against conservatism and then pretend that you don't support their agenda.

Registered party affiliation, has absolutely no bearing. Actions are where the metal meets the meat. The squish repubs, the big L&l liberatrians are well known for mouthing supposed conservative/rational values, yet have excedingly, never met the mark- much less actually towed/toed the line. The last thirty years have been a tsunami of collusion, by all registered liars. We all have illusions. Glad you abhor Ron Paul, but he is only one of many, in the same self-serving guise.