Standing Guard

NRA America's First Freedom ^ | 3/23/2013 | Wayne LaPierre

[Joe Brower]

‘Grammar-glarp’. Yes, that sometimes happens when I post before my first cup of coffee.

[boxlunch]

Can you tell me some of the reputable online places to order guns? I remember seeing a few recommended here. (Cheaperthandirt.com....) We finally are back in a place financially that we can purchase some more and my husband is ready to buy some, but of course everything is extremely scarce and expensive. :(

There is one that is almost like Craig’s list for guns, but I can’t remember the name!

Which calibers are easier to find now (I know everything is out of stock, but are there any that are a little less scarce than others?)

Thanks for any advice

[familyop]

"Learn the very valuable art of reloading. You can get started for about $350.00. This gives one a sense of satisfaction, lower costs, and personal security."

Reloading is good for some, but there are no supplies--no primers, no brass, no powder or bullets. Readers here, have a look for yourself. Try to find those supplies at Web vendors for your chosen calibers now.

It's not a way to go for ammunition availability or cost savings (tools not so bad but supplies much more expensive than before). The initial costs (including tools, time, brass cleaning tools and supplies, etc.) will actually make ammunition more expensive for many of those who bother with handloading at all. In most cases, handloaders find that their initial list was short a few items. The costs are nearly always far greater than first assumed.

Many newcomers, already stocked up on ammunition, bought reloading equipment and supplies for "SHTF," "TEOTWAWKI" or whatever media-driven or bureaucrat-driven end-of-the-world narrative suits them). Prices are driven up, and much of the purchased equipment will go to waste or be offered secondhand for next to nothing. I've bought some tools for about 1/4 of the price of new equipment.

There have also been warnings from self-defense "experts" against using reloads for self-defense, which warnings the courts will be likely to enjoy for more confusion, ignorance and big bucks.

And anyone thinking of reloading should be prepared to learn a technology that requires double-checking everything and much patience in general. It can be dangerous for those who don't pay attention to details.

All of that said, reloading is good for long range match competitors (for those minute gains in accuracy at hundreds of yards), people in remote areas (shipping lower cost than driving to distant stores)--especially those with experience in machining, mechanics or much interest in those kinds of work. I've indulged in those activities, so it works for me at costs higher, all in all, than costs for factory ammunition.

[Joe Brower]

I've had excellent results with http://www.gunbroker.com/. As for what calibers are easy to find... well, I hear you can still find .45-70 and .44-40 on the shelves. Seriously, the current market is undergoing a drought beyond anything I have ever seen. I would stick to common calibers, and wait.

12 gauge shotguns are still available, and if you don't have one of those yet, that's a good investment, imho.

I would place orders in a few places, see who delivers first, and then cancel the other orders. Of course, that makes the deluge statistically seem even worse than it is.

[familyop]

The NRA was silent on at least one important anti-Second-Amendment bill in Colorado (SB197). People shouldn’t have their Second Amendment right violated for nothing more than an accusation without a felony conviction. That’s the kind of compromise and incrementalism that will see the rights of everyone violated before long.

I’ll go with GOA and state organizations from now on.

http://gunowners.org/

[Joe Brower]

I go with both. No one, and no organization, can be everywhere at once to the complete satisfaction of everyone.

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

[boxlunch]

Thank you! We do have a couple of shotguns but had been intending on getting some SA rifles and handguns. The craziness set in this spring before we were able.

[Joe Brower]

I would also suggest that, if your local newspaper runs gun ads in the classifieds (some overly PC fishwraps do not), you can keep an eye on that as well.

My local paper has been carrying some AR-15s and whatnot for sale, very obviously by people who 'invested' right after the killings in CT and who are now looking to make a profit. Still, $1,500 for a NIB Colt 6920 isn't all bad, although Wal-Mart here had them for $1,100 in December.

[Redcitizen]

Perhaps you are thinking of Armslist.com

Hope that helps.