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UPS pays $40 million in drug delivery probe
THE ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION ^ | 03/29/2013 | Kelly Yamanouchi

Posted on 03/29/2013 3:59:50 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Sandy Springs-based UPS will pay $40 million to resolve a federal investigation into its role in shipping drugs for illegal online pharmacies. The company cooperated with the investigation and will not be prosecuted, according to the agreement with the the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of California. UPS will also put in place a compliance program aimed at ensuring illegal online pharmacies do not use its services to distribute drugs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicagodrugroute; fastandfurios; mafiagovernment; ups; upsfine

1 posted on 03/29/2013 3:59:50 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen
UPS should just cease operations into and out of the U.S.

That's what I would do if I were driving that boat.

2 posted on 03/29/2013 4:06:38 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Sounds like Obamatollah’s “protection racket” scored another $40 million for the Marxist cause.

Governor Cuomo runs a racket like that in NYC. Financial firms get a call, “Did you meet with Mr. Smith 2 years ago? Oh you sat down with him but decided not to do business with him? Well, he’s being investigated for XYZ, and unless you want your firm’s name dragged thru the mud (which could ruin your business), we suggest you pay this fine or your company name will pop up during Google searches of the Mr Smith investigation.”

Guess what? The firms pay the protection money to get the DA off their back for crimes they didn’t commit and aren’t even accused of.


3 posted on 03/29/2013 4:07:22 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

This pure all out extortion of UPS by the government.


4 posted on 03/29/2013 4:09:57 PM PDT by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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To: Kid Shelleen

So now UPS is supposed to do the job of the police?


5 posted on 03/29/2013 4:22:32 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: elkfersupper

UPS should just cease operations into and out of the U.S.

Elke. Get your head out of a sand pile. UPS makes 4.5 billion in profits a year on my sweat. USPS loses billions a year on your dime.

A proud UPS guy here.

6 posted on 03/29/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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To: dancusa
A proud UPS guy here.

Well, slow down, UPS guy.

If Congress ordered UPS to pay $5 billion a year in future-employee pension costs [like it does the USPS], you'd be in the same boat as we are. And don't for a moment think they might not do just that.

BTW, I deal with the UPS guys every day when they drop off packages at my Post Office. They're great. Let's not throw stones carelessly.

7 posted on 03/29/2013 4:31:44 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The economy is not a pie, but a bakery.)
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To: I want the USA back
UPS business model puts it into very close contact with its customers. They custom design all sorts of procedures, and even create special discounts for them depending on how cooperative they are.

When you do business that way you probably can be expected to figure out if the 'business partner' is legitimate!

This isn't the first time UPS has gotten caught ~ but more frequently it'll be just a customer doing something surreptitiously ~ which isn't the case here.

UPS ends up looking lie a consiglieri more than a common carrier in this case.

So bust 'em!

8 posted on 03/29/2013 4:32:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dancusa
Elke. Get your head out of a sand pile.

Get your head out.

If I were driving UPS, why would I want to keep operating in a country that fines me for what I transport?

No brainer. Go elsewhere. The world is a big place.

9 posted on 03/29/2013 4:34:46 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
They are not being fined for just driving stuff around the country. They were fined for KNOWINGLY doing business with people who were shipping pharmaceuticals without proper bills of lading (which even USPS requires, and they're the big hauler in direct pharmacy to customer pharmaceutical shipments).

UPS, USPS, FEDEX and freight carriers all have a legal responsibility to conform to special standards applicable to mode of conveyance rules coming from ATA and DOT, This is just another bunch of rules coming from Food and Drug ~ little different than the mode rules, so they should be able to deal with it as well as their competitors.

10 posted on 03/29/2013 4:39:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
As soon as some bureaucrat decides that asparagus is a drug, I guess that won't be shipped either.

My point is, why bother with the U.S. as a pickup and delivery point if the U.S. is going to be so anal about what is or isn't a drug?

Why should UPS have to care anyway? Their job is to ship parcel A to point B.

Now, the drug warriors want them to concern themselves with parcel A.

That is not their job.

11 posted on 03/29/2013 4:50:51 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
UPS makes it their job to go after business from industry groups. Then they develop special procedures that make accommodating the needs of that industry group easier and more profitable for both.

They were trying to increase traffic from the phamaceutical industry.

Not everybody is honest. They ended up doing business with people not otherwise obeying EXISTING LAWS.

UPS has experts in their company who are supposed to review these new alliances so that this cr*p doesn't happen.

They let down on the job.

UPS is not operating in the same environment as guys running cement mixers up and down the road. Otherwise I might agree with you. Alas, I had to spend a lot of time studying the transport rules and the pharmaceutical rules so that I could make rulings on related matters. They are complex ~ again, not cement trucks!

Think of UPS as a parcel and express compay that owns a major airline. Think of Fed Ex as an airline that owns a parcel and express company. Think of USPS as the folks who rent the unused space in the Fed Ex and UPS planes to carry mail across the country and around the world.

Watching out for mad bombers is a problem for all of them, and the same for the crazoids sending stuff out of ignorance ~ all of them have to watch forthis stuff ~ and then there are the criminal enterprises ~ none of them wants to be the carrier of choice for the Zeta Cartel!

12 posted on 03/29/2013 5:04:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: elkfersupper
BTW, the FDA has already decided that Viagra is a drug. Not all Seldinofil is safe to use ~ because there are manufacturers who work outside the regulatory environment ~ and because of that they may send your next bottle of imitation viagra in a concentration that does nothing (fraudulant behavior) or so strong you go over that 4 hour time limit for the next 2 weeks (criminal behavior).

We aren't talking about your surreptitious shipment of cocaine BTW

13 posted on 03/29/2013 5:08:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
UPS is global.

If I were in charge, I would not pick up or deliver anything in the U.S.

Who needs this crap?

The world is a big place and not everybody out there cares about what's in the package. They just want to ship it and receive it.

The U.S. is probably the only place outside of the countries controlled by the Taliban which cares.

14 posted on 03/29/2013 5:09:18 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
All European countries care. BTW, UPS can go anywhere they want in the world ~ but most of their business is in the USA.

You should try your idea out on their management though.

15 posted on 03/29/2013 5:11:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kid Shelleen

that is, of course, absolute insanity....it accomplishes nothing and costs an American company 40 million dollars, which the government will immediately grant to a muslim stronghold somewhere or another.....pathetic.


16 posted on 03/29/2013 5:28:48 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: muawiyah

These pharmacies can dump these packages in a drop box, or a number of them. How is anyone to know what is in them? Be aware that UPS settled. Fedex will likely not be permitted that route. Nonunion Fedex will be punished.


17 posted on 03/29/2013 5:46:20 PM PDT by joelt
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To: Kid Shelleen

I smell rats, here. Notice how the article uses the phrase “illegal Internet pharmacies” a total of SIX times?

That indicates to me that the purpose of the exercise seems to be to vilify. Especially because while they mentioned what appears to be criminal acts on the receiving side, they never said *why* “illegal Internet pharmacies” *are* “illegal Internet pharmacies”.

While they want to make it appear that these are people sending illegal drugs, I also noticed that they used the meme: “...potentially unapproved, counterfeit, or otherwise unsafe prescription medications...”

And this is how in past they have tried to describe legitimate pharmaceutical sales from Canada. Drugs that cost a quarter of what they do in the US, yet are made by the same manufacturer, which intensely annoys the US “big pharma” industry, who want it outlawed.

“Under the Prescription Drug Marketing Act of 1987, it is illegal for anyone other than the original manufacturer to bring prescription drugs into the country. However, federal officials have decided to exercise “enforcement discretion” in dealing with prescription drugs brought across the border, provided the drugs are not narcotics or other controlled substances.

“This means that as long as a person brings back no more than a three-month supply for personal use, border officials generally look the other way, Thomas McGinnis, director of pharmacy affairs for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in March 2001. Patients generally may order refills in amounts up to a three-month supply without interference.”

And it drives big pharma crazy, thinking of all those millions of dollars not going into their pockets.


18 posted on 03/29/2013 5:51:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: joelt

Actually, no. it’s relatively difficult to ‘splain it all, but they need to enter regulated substances like pharmaceuticals at something other than a drop box ~ and we are talking about TONS at a time. These are not small players.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 6:13:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If the federal government was actively enforcing this law against vendors who sell “male enhancement” pills, there wouldn’t be any spam about that product, but there is, and a lot of it. That tells me that, at least for the time being, you can still buy these products without undue risk of seizure or prosecution.


20 posted on 03/29/2013 7:28:33 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: muawiyah

The article does not say anything about the size of any of these operations. But said they were illegal. Imagine a pharmacy was sending out 50 oxy prescriptions a day to out of state recipients.(naturally, on phony prescriptions) If the packages were dropped in multiple drop boxes to get them in the system, how would UPS or FEDEX ever be expected to know about it? And you can explain at any level you wish. I can keep up. 26 years at FEDEX. Thanks!


21 posted on 03/30/2013 4:25:43 AM PDT by joelt
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To: joelt
Yes, the old drop box trick ~ you ever stand there and stuff bulky envelope after bulky envelope into those things for a couple of hours out in the cold?

UPS folks who tap those boxes know all about that trick so they'd have a company rep out there trying to edumacate your mailing ops people about the great deal they can get with PICKUP SERVICE.

They have a system to keep this from happening to them ~ and that's where it happened ~ not with an incidental item here and there.

22 posted on 03/30/2013 5:33:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: joelt

BTW, I don’t think this stuff involved controlled narcotics but simply items requiring prescriptions ~ like viagra!


23 posted on 03/30/2013 5:36:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: elkfersupper
No brainer. Go elsewhere. The world is a big place.

I am a trained hazmat responder. UPS drills me twice a month on how to do the 22 steps on donning SCBA(oxygen tank). This is required for PPE (personal protection equipment) if needed. We have to follow the "decision tree" for any suspected chemical and hazmat damages. Sometimes there are no MSDS(material safety data sheet) papers with the parcel. Sometimes shippers try to sneak this through the system.

I am also drilled 2 times a month on the "decision tree" by management on how to contain spills or leaks. The audit team from a private company might come by twice a year and drill me.

24 posted on 04/05/2013 2:01:49 PM PDT by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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