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South Carolina One Step Closer to Nullifying ObamaCare
New American ^ | 04/01/2013 | Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.

Posted on 04/01/2013 5:20:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

” - - - the right of states to oppose unconstitutional acts of the federal government generally. - - - “

As South Carolina goes, so goes TEXAS!


21 posted on 04/01/2013 7:44:07 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Then let us plain seriously for rebellion. Let us look at the state of assets at our disposal.

Let us look at the disposition of the Federal military assets, run assessments the likelihood of defection towards the cause of liberty and determine what we must do to increase the odds of Patriot success.

Let us talk practically about what would be required to secure our states from Federal tyranny.

I think you should find that Washington has indeed been busy over the last 150 years busy disarming our people and our states as to see to it that any future rebellion against their assumed absolute and unchecked athoirty whether it be legitimately grounded or otherwise should be overwhelmingly crushed.

Even if most men of the army should think the merits of the patriot cause worth fighting for, their very organization is designed to help prevent them from forming loyalty or kinship with any part of this federation so that they may be more easily in-mass preswaided to levy war upon their states. This is of course the very letter of treason in the now defuct Federal Constitution.

That was not a significant problem even in 1861 because the military’s command structure was easily and quickly replaced with one more agreeable to WHATEVER a president might want.

The sad truth is if we are even to talk about rebellion against a lawless Federal Government we must first talk about manuring that government towards collapse. For while it exist able to function it will not suffer our freedom to persist.

Short of that we must politically see to it that all other Americans are as unhappy with the union as we are while furthermore convincing them of of the benefits of going our separate ways, and he corresponding futility of agreeing upon and implementing a solution.

If it does however come down to a fight we must analyze our very limited options in winning that fight with respect to the technological and political tools at our disposal or which might be ceased in short enough order using what we do have.

This discussion-however should be somewhat more concealed, even thou there is an enormous variety of options


22 posted on 04/01/2013 8:05:26 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: Monorprise

” - - - This discussion-however should be somewhat more concealed - - - “

The Obamanation Counterculture Computer Unit in the White House already has all of your comments recorded - - - .


23 posted on 04/01/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: TChad

South Carolina is hardly the first, many, many other states have already inacted nullification measures.

The next step is interposition, but we must first determine if and where such interposition is nessary and to what extent.

The “nullifcation crisis” in south carolina nearly 200 years ago is not politicaly nor practicaly repeatable today. Nor would it yeld similar results just yet. Otherstates, many other states would have to be prepared to go with South Carolina along the same time for such an effort to be sucessfull.

Even then their resistane would have to be some what quite.

1: It all must start with simple non-cooperation.

2: Following non-cooperation, a more active roll in resistance should be attempted and slowly implemented by assisting individual citizens efforts to evade unlawful federal agents. (this is the beginnings of interposition)

3: The final measure is full on interposition that is all but certant to evoke a strong Federal response. But this should not be even attempted until most States have reached Stage 2 and it is clear that the act of abomination is already on its way out.

In other-words only start threatening Federal agents after they have left the stage. And we are doing this to establish a precedence for future efforts at nullification.

We want history to remember theses efforts as successful and engender the spirit of liberty in future generation so should the enforcement return our people should be ready and willing to resist.

Thats why active interposition in the form of threatening Federal agents should be avoided until its practical moot. Because right now we don’t have the political, cultural, nor practical forces to win such a fight with Washington. Such must be rebuilt, and that will take success and a generation to instill that success.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 8:20:44 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: Graewoulf

“The Obamanation Counterculture Computer Unit in the White House already has all of your comments recorded - - - .”

Of this fact nobody here should have any illusions, Indeed we must espect that they have profiles on each and every one of us.

It is however a legal and political constraint that our words are indeed mere words. That we personalty shall do nothing illegal, and merely advance the idea’s of liberty in discussion of option and needed political maneuvering.

Ours on free republic must be a strategy of the dialogue. After all let nobody forget the obvious fact that it is the Pin not the sword that we here are welding.


25 posted on 04/01/2013 8:24:48 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Reporting for duty!


26 posted on 04/01/2013 8:32:55 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 ("as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.")
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To: Monorprise
This discussion-however should be somewhat more concealed, even thou there is an enormous variety of options

That is the truth. The Sons of Liberty had their own way of "Secretly" communicating among their members. Given the state of technology today, and the efforts of the feds at monitoring, lo-tech, is going to have to be the answer for our generation
27 posted on 04/01/2013 10:37:25 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: snippy_about_it

because you were defending slavery then, clearly, and your own senators bragged about doing so, okay?

I been here for 2 years, and don’t even tell me about your sad story. I have witnessed it firsthand, heard it, was shocked by many things.

No, it aint everybody, and the Alabama boys were just as bad, and yes, I have had anti-white racism thrown at me, too

Funny thing is, the Black people down here treat me better as a stranger than the white guys do once they get to talking.

but don’t even pretend there is isn’t a lot of racism down here

you’re in denial


28 posted on 04/02/2013 3:52:06 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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To: SoConPubbie

“That is the truth. The Sons of Liberty had their own way of “Secretly” communicating among their members. Given the state of technology today, and the efforts of the feds at monitoring, lo-tech, is going to have to be the answer for our generation”

Well there is such a thing as encryption. If you have someone you wish to talk to online just encrypt it with a very high encryption standard. By the time the Feds crack the encryption the information should be useless.

But don’t forget to keep updating the Standards because the NSA is constantly building faster and faster machines to crack larger and larger levels of encryption.


29 posted on 04/02/2013 3:19:09 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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