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Democrats push bill in Congress to require gun insurance under penalty of fine
FoxNews.com ^ | Published April 02, 2013 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 04/02/2013 9:36:35 AM PDT by Wiggins

A New York Democratic lawmaker is behind a national push that would force gun owners to buy liability insurance or face a $10,000 fine.

The Firearm Risk Protection Act, pushed by Rep. Carolyn Maloney and seven co-sponsors, follows efforts at the state level to create the controversial new kind of insurance for gun owners.

"For too long, gun victims and society at large have borne the brunt of the costs of gun violence," Maloney said in a written statement. "My bill would change that by shifting some of that cost back onto those who own the weapons."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/02/democrats-push-bill-in-congress-to-require-gun-insurance/#ixzz2PKBX9mGE

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; guncontrol; maloney; secondamendment
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To: massgopguy
Terrific one liner, gop guy!
21 posted on 04/02/2013 9:55:59 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Wiggins

Same as 0bamacare except instead of health care it’s guns. ARE THEY SURE THIS ISN’T A TAX?


22 posted on 04/02/2013 10:05:33 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Solson; Wiggins

Solson~:” So....how would they know who has guns and thus required to own said insurance????/ “

The IRS would conduct an ‘inventory’ of insurance companies to
make sure that they were accurately reporting profits and coverage,
thus gaining access to business records.
That sounds much simplier and would not be resisted by smaller companies
who are not represented by any political lobbying groups

This still represents backdoor registration
with government (indirect ) oversight


23 posted on 04/02/2013 10:07:42 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

The govt already has a lot of access to insurance company data.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 10:12:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wiggins

Wonder how she’s going to get the gang bangers to buy the insurance?


25 posted on 04/02/2013 10:13:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

So this would mean, that this bill would place worth on Human life @ $1 million! Could this not set a precedent on all loss of Human life due to other circunstances.
If it was proven the perp just happened to pick the wrong house, intending for it to be the neighbor house, one weaponless and an easy target, and you did not verify why the perp was in your house and had the wrong directions from his GPS, your insurance would have to pay off.


26 posted on 04/02/2013 10:14:05 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: driftdiver
Name an insurance company which would actually sell the policies.

Any number of them. Why wouldn't they? Insurance is mandatory here for autos. And we cannot shop for best deals with out of state companies. All insurance companies charge the same rates by mandate of The State.

And even if no current insurance company would, then it would be 'sold' by the yet to be created "Commonwealth of Massachusetts Department of Public Safety Insurance Division".

27 posted on 04/02/2013 10:15:06 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Wiggins

The Democrat talking points:

Voter ID: too restrictive and burdensome on the public to have to go through such a rigorous process; would disenfranchise tens of thousands.

Abortion Notifications/Information: too restrictive and burdensome on women - interferes with rights of privacy and it’s the government interfering between the rights of a women and her doctor. (Don’t even get me started on Obamacare)

Gun registration: Necessary for a peaceful society; must save the children.

Gun insurance: must transfer the societal costs of gun violence to the [lawful] gun owners.

I think it’s way past time to start hitting back to expose the hypocrisy.


28 posted on 04/02/2013 10:19:21 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

They can also force gun owners like myself with permits to submit insurance I.D. cards and have the insurance companies notify the county or state when or if the insurance lapses. Like some states do with motor vehicle insurance. Then they could fine people $10K and suspend their pistol permit until they come up with the cash. After a certain period of time you lose your gun, permit and still have to pay the fine or get arrested. If gun registration is ever passed they could enact this policy on every gun owner that obeys the gun registration law. Anyone caught with an unregistered, uninsured gun gets arrested and fined. These people are out of control.


29 posted on 04/02/2013 10:20:13 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Many insurance companies will refuse to cover firearms, or businesses which focus on firearms.


30 posted on 04/02/2013 10:20:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: alancarp

Hey Kim Il Jong. I hear Obama’s talking about your mama and he doesn’t think you have the guts to fire a nuke at the WH...: )


31 posted on 04/02/2013 10:21:19 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Wiggins

Next they’ll want the same for my English Long Bow and Forged Steel Tip arrows.


32 posted on 04/02/2013 10:21:45 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t know everything about the biz but I know how businesses get set up in MA. One does not open their doors without liability insurance. FFLs must have it like everyone else. Those companies who sell coverage are probably already working on the actuarials...if they haven’t already.


33 posted on 04/02/2013 10:23:55 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Wiggins

Wasn’t there a time when congress passed a tax on printer’s ink, and this was found unconstitutional - for it suppressed the first amendment?

In a sane world, this would apply to second amendment as well.


34 posted on 04/02/2013 10:25:58 AM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Wiggins

Looks like they found some new spending money.


35 posted on 04/02/2013 10:38:06 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Wiggins

I know the answer to this question before I ask it, (making it rhetorical) but what do Freepers think as to Baloney’s constitutional justification for this legislation?

Perhaps from the area in her twat where she stores her other bright ideas?


36 posted on 04/02/2013 10:51:42 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank

“Thou shall not infringe”

If there is a gun tax, then there certainly must be a poll tax


37 posted on 04/02/2013 10:55:54 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Vaduz

It’s a RIGHT, people. You cannot place monetary conditions on a right. Right to vote, right to worship w/o registering yourself as a Methodist or whatever, right to read (or publish) w/o getting gov’t approval, etc.

We have a government ruling us, most of the members of which don’t even have a clue about our Constitution. And most of them are f’ing lawyers! And our citizens - or subjects - aren’t any better informed.

Ignorance is deadly. Sorry, I’m ranting, but I just woke up and I’m not ready for this.


38 posted on 04/02/2013 11:07:18 AM PDT by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: Jewbacca

‘We’re not going to violate your rights, we’re just going to charge you for using them...and if you don’t pay up, you’re gonna be in trouble.’

Didn’t the mafia used to do something like this?


39 posted on 04/02/2013 11:20:44 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Wiggins
Wait wait wait .....how are the poor who live in the most dangerous urban environments extant gonna pay for gun insurance? I guess the ghetto mom who can barely afford to buy a WEAPON to protect the family in the first place... is going to be thrown to the mercys of the gang bangin druggies? This is dangerous for the poor and for the children of the poor. Ain't these the very folks the libs pretend to stand for? The liberal village elders seem ready and willing and able to sacrifice these unfortunates for some mindless 'feel good' legislation. This plan does not seem well thought out to me.........



ALLOW THEM TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES THEY MUST

40 posted on 04/02/2013 11:29:02 AM PDT by jimsin
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