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Pregnant Mom Arrested in New York for Unloaded Handgun in Checked Baggage
The Blaze ^ | 2 April, 2013 | Liz Klimas

Posted on 04/03/2013 6:49:48 PM PDT by marktwain

A Minnesota mom six months pregnant getting ready to head home from a trip to New York with her 6-year-old daughter was arrested last week for an unloaded handgun she had in the luggage she was attempting to check.

According to WDAY, Beth Arneson Ferrizzi had no trouble transporting the gun from her departure city — Fargo, North Dakota — as she called Delta to make sure she was following the correct protocol. But she encountered problems as she tried to return home out of La Guardia International Airport, after a trip meeting her husband while he was on leave from Honduras where he is stationed for a year as master sergeant serving in the Air Force.

“They said that the firearm had to unloaded and in a hard-sided, locked case,” Ferrizzi said of Delta’s instructions. “The ammunition had to be stored separated. Not separate from the gun but in either it’s original packaging or some sort of a container that kept the bullets from being in contact with each other.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: airline; banglist; guncontrol; nyc; pregnant; secondamendment
Not sure the federal gun owners protection act will be of any help. Sounds as though she spent a few days in New York City.

It makes NYC look like idiots for their crazy law, but they will likely double down on it.

1 posted on 04/03/2013 6:49:48 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The mayor will undoubtedly demand she have a late term abortion as a show of good faith.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 6:51:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

Do they x-ray CHECKED luggage now?


3 posted on 04/03/2013 6:53:12 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marktwain

The moral of the story is, stay the he!! out of New Yawk! Those Obamanoids are crazy.


4 posted on 04/03/2013 6:53:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: marktwain
"that kept the bullets from being in contact with each other.”

Just like the Netherlands where unmarried people cannot be buried next to each other nor can books by authors of different sex and unmarried be put next to each other. How in G-d's name will bullets coming in contact with each other cause .... whatever ....???

5 posted on 04/03/2013 6:54:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: muawiyah

bloomberg is a late term abortion


6 posted on 04/03/2013 6:55:36 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: marktwain

People pack unloaded guns into checked bags all the time. You just have to let the airlines know what you are doing.

There is more to this story.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 6:58:07 PM PDT by liege (You don't drive out the darkness; you turn on the light.)
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To: marktwain

“It should not be normal that somebody who is attempting to do everything right
is charged with a felony crime,” Ferrizzi said.
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It should not be, but it is.


8 posted on 04/03/2013 6:58:20 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: marktwain

There should be a travel warning issued on NYC.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 6:59:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: marktwain
it's NOT the laws of where you depart from you need to check as much as it's the laws of where you ARRIVE...

she must live in a cave not to know by now that NYC is murder on gun owners in OR out of staate

10 posted on 04/03/2013 6:59:08 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: liege

Apparently she made the mistake of having a gun within the confines of New York City. She may be gulag bound.


11 posted on 04/03/2013 7:00:33 PM PDT by liege (You don't drive out the darkness; you turn on the light.)
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To: liege

Did you read the article?


12 posted on 04/03/2013 7:00:56 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: liege
Apparently she made the mistake of having a gun within the confines of New York City. She may be gulag bound.

David Gregory made a similar mistake in the totalitarian jurisdiction of DC, but he wasn't prosecuted.

13 posted on 04/03/2013 7:03:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SkyDancer
How in G-d's name will bullets coming in contact with each other cause .... whatever ....???

Where do you think .22 LR's come from?

14 posted on 04/03/2013 7:04:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

NYC is like any other third world dictatorship. Treat it as such.


15 posted on 04/03/2013 7:04:49 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: SkyDancer

I’m guessing they mean like the plastic thing with the holes in it for each round. But I always figured that was to keep them from getting dinged up rather than a safety issue. Although I suppose tossing the baggage around something might poke into the primer and set one off? Would be a 1 in a billion chance though - but in an airplane...

I flew to Alaska and had slugs for my shotgun in the packaging as they told me. I forgot about it on the way back and had tossed the original boxes. So I had them wrapped up in socks/clothing and in baggies. I asked first, and they said no go - I had to get rid of them.

So I unwrapped them all, dumped them loose in the baggie and walked out to the guy helping out by the taxi stand.

“Hey - ya want 9 12-gauge Bernake slugs?” - “SURE!!”

Back then it was no big deal. But given today’s ammo situation.....!


16 posted on 04/03/2013 7:04:51 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Moonman62
David Gregory made a similar mistake in the totalitarian jurisdiction of DC, but he wasn't prosecuted.

Yeah, but he knew the right people.

17 posted on 04/03/2013 7:07:49 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Still Thinking

Oh - right. Forgot.


18 posted on 04/03/2013 7:09:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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I don’t understand: Doesn’t the Second Amendment obtain in NYC? Isn’t NYC part of the USA?
She should stay in North Dakota and not return to NYC for trial. ND authorities would never extradite her. So she can never visit NYC again. No loss.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 7:10:20 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: 2banana

Not only do they xray checked baggage but they go through it to make sure your valuables find a new home.


20 posted on 04/03/2013 7:16:47 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: liege

She had a unlicensed handgun in New York, its not about the airline.


21 posted on 04/03/2013 7:17:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: liege

“....There is more to this story.”
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And what exactly do you think that is? Is it too much for you to believe that the progressive government of New York City would actually oppress an innocent pregnant woman whose husband is serving his country overseas? I think that this shows the absolute evil of these people—it’s their essense.


22 posted on 04/03/2013 7:25:31 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: marktwain

It’s time to offer gun storage facilities in foreign airports like LaGuardia.


23 posted on 04/03/2013 7:35:29 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Repeal The 17th; All
Now to be reasonable. Let us say an unsuspecting New York City policeman is visiting North Dakota.

He is carrying his service pistol, because in New York City, he can carry it concealed, so he figures he can carry it anywhere(it would be legal for the policeman to carry it in North Dakota).

He drives out in the country and spots some men at a drilling rig. They are pouring bags of a substance labled “fracking sand” into a hopper. He immediately draws his pistol, and orders the men to the ground, because he knows that “fracking” is bad and not legal. Thousands of dollars worth of damage is done to the machinery through inaction while the men at the construction site wait for two hours for the county sheriff to get there.

When he does, the NYC policeman is arrested.

See, just the same sort of situation!/S

24 posted on 04/03/2013 7:44:56 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; All

“It’s time to offer gun storage facilities in foreign airports like LaGuardia.”

Not allowed under New York City law.


25 posted on 04/03/2013 7:45:59 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Shitty laws like this is how they plan on taking away your firearms.


26 posted on 04/03/2013 7:49:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: marktwain

You gotta be careful with them pregnant women.


27 posted on 04/03/2013 8:00:29 PM PDT by Epsdude
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To: Still Thinking
How in G-d's name will bullets coming in contact with each other cause .... whatever ....???

Where do you think .22 LR's come from?

I was going through my ammo boxes and discovered a couple of bricks of 22LR ammo that I didn't know I had. So that's where they came from!

28 posted on 04/03/2013 8:24:28 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: marktwain

Doesn’t a handgun possession in NYC require special handgun permit from the City??
(the state has different rules) ???.

As I recall that was true as far back as the 1960s.


29 posted on 04/03/2013 8:24:37 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sh**ty laws like this is how they plan on taking away your firearms.

Sh**ty laws like this is how they may just end up hanging from a lamppost.

30 posted on 04/03/2013 8:40:12 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: marktwain
According to WDAY, Beth Arneson Ferrizzi had no trouble transporting the gun from her departure city — Fargo, North Dakota — as she called Delta to make sure she was following the correct protocol. But she encountered problems as she tried to return home out of La Guardia International Airport, after a trip meeting her husband while he was on leave..."

Sounds to me like she made a good-faith effort to comply.

Maybe she can register a complaint against Delta, or the agent who misinformed her.

It's lawyer time!!!

31 posted on 04/03/2013 8:40:21 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: SkyDancer; 21twelve
How in G-d's name will bullets coming in contact with each other cause .... whatever ....???

It is a known concern with tubular magazines. Tip of the bullet of one round is positioned right over the primer of the next round. Vibration from the shot may cause detonation of the round in the magazine. There is special ammo that is less likely to ignite primer of the round in front; it is discussed here.

Rimfire ammo is also somewhat a concern because there is a lot of primer compressed into the rim of the cartridge. It still takes a serious impact, enough to punch the brass in, to detonate the primer. But the same can occur if a round is struck with a hammer, or otherwise massively deformed. It won't be a serious danger outside of the barrel, but you don't want to experience that anyway. Fire is also possible.

Most new centerfire rounds are shipped in plastic or foam holders. But remanufactured rounds are shipped without them, in bulk, thrown randomly into cardboard boxes. Bulk rimfire, even new, is often poured into boxes and shipped like that. Only higher value rounds are sold in plastic.

In general, it should be pretty safe to transport rounds of all kinds just in a bag. However if they are not controlled then something hard and heavy can hit the primer. Boxes and inserts do not prevent that, but at least you know where the ammo is. If rounds are just somewhere in a bag then you cannot be sure. Either way, the chance of accidental ignition is very low.

32 posted on 04/03/2013 8:43:10 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: marktwain

I’ve heard about this happening before. What I didn’t know, and learned from the article, is that the US Air Force is doing something in Honduras. That’s something I’d like to know more about.


33 posted on 04/03/2013 8:53:55 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: Still Thinking
Where do you think .22 LR's come from?

Is that what causes today's .22LR shortages - laws keeping bullets from touching?

34 posted on 04/04/2013 2:21:47 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: marktwain

New York arseholes.

End of story.


35 posted on 04/04/2013 3:14:15 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: SkyDancer
"How in G-d's name will bullets coming in contact with each other cause .... whatever ....???"

The fear is that the hard metal cases banging against the primers will cause a detonation. Understandable. This is also the reason that bullets used in tubular magazines have blunt tips rather than the sharp points of those used in detachable magazines. Luggage handling is NOT gentle. Severe jolts are the norm.

36 posted on 04/04/2013 4:48:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: 21twelve
"Would be a 1 in a billion chance though - but in an airplane..."

Not just "in the airplane". If you've ever watched the luggage handling process, there are severe jolts from the time it leaves your hands until the time you pick it back up. Luggage handling is NOT gentle.

37 posted on 04/04/2013 4:50:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: marktwain

NYC is much more restrictive than than the rest of the state. Even with a carry permit issued from upstate NY, being caught with a handgun in NYC is bad juju.


38 posted on 04/04/2013 5:43:15 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Pollster1

Yes, in combination with ready access to ammo contraception and ammo abortions. It’s a cartridge’s right, you know!


39 posted on 04/04/2013 8:31:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

Airports should be like Washington DC. Or at least, since Airports are part of the interstate transportation system, the federal government should be able to make common federal law for them.

After all, the TSA is federal. A city can’t tell the airport not to screen passengers.

What I find fascinating is that this is clearly a focus of NYCity. They aren’t looking for guns coming in, they are looking for them leaving, when they can arrest the people for staying in their city with them.

If they were really just trying to keep guns out, they would inspect on arrival, and tell the people that they weren’t allowed to stay in NYC with the gun.

This would be like having a wild west tavern in the old days, but instead of checking the guns at the door, you let poeple bring them in, and then checked when they left, and arrested them if you found they had been in the tavern with a gun.


40 posted on 04/04/2013 9:56:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2banana

YES


41 posted on 04/04/2013 9:59:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Then I guess the answer is to use Newark. At least on the outbound flight. That is, if you actually have some really compelling reason to visit Moscow on the Hudson. If not, just stick to the free states. Can’t believe I actually said New Jersey was the solution to something.


42 posted on 04/04/2013 1:50:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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