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U.S. Agrees To U.N. Global Gun Control
Investor's Business Daily ^ | April 4, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 04/04/2013 3:37:18 PM PDT by raptor22

Global Gun Control: Despite a prior Senate rebuff, President Obama will likely sign and push a treaty embraced by the world's oppressors and thugs who fear armed citizens.

The treaty's prior rejection by the Senate 53-46 in a nonbinding test vote as part of the budget debate in a body where a two-thirds vote to ratify is required would seem to doom the United Nations pact endorsed by the Obama administration.

However, the president will likely sign it and, as is his custom these days, try to enforce key provisions by stealth, executive order and by "common-sense" regulations and restrictions.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that the White House was pleased with the outcome, but "as is the case with all treaties of this nature, we will follow normal procedures to conduct a thorough review of the treaty text to determine whether to sign the treaty."

It is doubtful the president would not sign a treaty he has pushed for through his past and present secretaries of state, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry.

"The U.S. Senate is united in strong opposition to a treaty that puts us on level ground with dictatorships who abuse human rights and arm terrorists, but there is real concern that the administration feels pressured to sign a treaty that violates our constitutional rights," Sen. Jerry Moran, a Kansas Republican, said Tuesday.

Supporters of the pact say it doesn't really threaten our Second Amendment rights, regulates only international arms trade, and won't be ratified anyway.

But there is also real concern that the Obama administration still might use it as a pretext not to sell weapons to allies like Israel and Taiwan, or to restrict the import of firearms and ammunition for individual end users.

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1 posted on 04/04/2013 3:37:18 PM PDT by raptor22
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To: All; raptor22

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


2 posted on 04/04/2013 3:39:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: raptor22

It’s post election. Of course we’re going to sign on to anything the UN wants now. Obama has nothing to lose.


3 posted on 04/04/2013 3:39:57 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: raptor22

He’s really good at the “I WON” and in your face stuff.

He’s not so good when someone pushes back though, he tends to get a bit heavy-handed then.


5 posted on 04/04/2013 3:44:40 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: raptor22

I can’t wait to see the UN army enforce that.


6 posted on 04/04/2013 3:47:23 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: poobear

I feel you frustration.
Its all happening way too fast.

I told a friend at easter I am OK with my WW2 parents being gone because if they were still around there frigen heads would explode.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 3:48:26 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: raptor22

It is absolutely extraordinarily the utter contempt these people have for people.


8 posted on 04/04/2013 3:48:28 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Domandred

It’s post-election. He as a lot more room to maneuver, or whatever it was he wanted Putin’s towel-boy to take back to Vlad.


9 posted on 04/04/2013 3:51:30 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: raptor22

Utter betrayal by congress; in the event that the Obama government attempts to enforce any UN ban on firearms, or any UN regulations whatsoever, there will be considerable dissent by the American people.

Not to overstate the case, but this could be an enormous problem which leads to very great friction in the United States.

NO UN treaty could be considered to override the Bill of Rights; should the Obama administration attempt to nullify ANY clause of the Bill of Rights by stealth or fiat, it will generate thorny legal problems, not to mention considerable citizen dissatisfaction and dissent.


10 posted on 04/04/2013 3:52:05 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: raptor22
the boy can sign anything he wants, it don't make it law... der Slickmeister found that out after Kyoto
11 posted on 04/04/2013 3:52:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TurboZamboni

Not going to enforce it. UN is a paper tiger.


12 posted on 04/04/2013 3:53:44 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: raptor22
.... What is America without it's freedom?

 photo LibertyLOSTsm_zps7bd7b15e.jpg

13 posted on 04/04/2013 3:53:47 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Domandred

He signs it, and you’ve got Civil War II....States will secede over this.


14 posted on 04/04/2013 3:54:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jack Hammer

.....And likely revolt.


15 posted on 04/04/2013 3:54:41 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Zeneta

I wonder why?


16 posted on 04/04/2013 3:55:12 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: dfwgator

A revolt or civil war is very likely in my lifetime.


17 posted on 04/04/2013 3:55:27 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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18 posted on 04/04/2013 3:56:09 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I think it may be the same thing that happens to successful Rock Stars and Hollywood actors.

Everybody in their circles treat them like gods, and they think they know what’s best, because no one in their circle will dare to question them.

Just a thought.


19 posted on 04/04/2013 4:02:39 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

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20 posted on 04/04/2013 4:07:21 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Admin Moderator

IBD EDITORIAL PING


21 posted on 04/04/2013 4:09:10 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

22 posted on 04/04/2013 4:09:32 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: raptor22

Any U.S. Senators who vote for this should just go ahead and tattoo “TRAITOR” on their foreheads.

Because we’ll see it there anyway.


23 posted on 04/04/2013 4:12:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
smells like 1859
24 posted on 04/04/2013 4:14:13 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: raptor22

If anyone wants to know where the UN lives, it is up on the East Side of Manhattan Island.


25 posted on 04/04/2013 4:15:12 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: raptor22
Supporters of the pact say it doesn't really threaten our Second Amendment rights, regulates only international arms trade, and won't be ratified anyway.

If that were true, they wouldn't be bothering with it.

26 posted on 04/04/2013 4:17:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: raptor22

Oenema needs to be impeached.


27 posted on 04/04/2013 4:17:39 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Grampa Dave; granite; GreenFreeper; grjr21; I got the rope; IchBinEinBerliner; jaredt112; JayB; ...

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28 posted on 04/04/2013 4:20:11 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!"

~Patrick Henry




please click the pic

29 posted on 04/04/2013 4:21:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dfwgator

One day this mother lover will push too far.

That day gets closer all the time.


30 posted on 04/04/2013 4:22:26 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: tomkat

Where and when will be the Fort Sumter Moment?


31 posted on 04/04/2013 4:25:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: raptor22

An executive order cannot trump a constitutional amendment.


32 posted on 04/04/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: raptor22

No shock that Obama does what Obama does. What I cannot wrap my head around is the nearly complete lack of blowback by GOP pols at every level.

Leaders should lead. Where are the GOP governors telling the Dems outright their states will not comply? Where are the more local GOP people? They can all damn well get a hold of each other when funding is at issue.

Where is the threatened shutdown of govt?

I guess they really are Democrats themselves.


33 posted on 04/04/2013 4:28:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: raptor22

There seem to be some meeting rooms in need of a cleansing walk through, with a 34 oz. baseball bat.


34 posted on 04/04/2013 4:28:57 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: raptor22

Don’t be shocked when you really wake up and find nothing left to America.


35 posted on 04/04/2013 4:29:41 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Renegade

“An executive order cannot trump a constitutional amendment.”

You wait and see...


36 posted on 04/04/2013 4:36:32 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: raptor22

Some here may not have read John Ross’ book “Unintended Consequences”. Others may have read it long ago, but may want to refresh their minds about the “gun culture”. Go here: http://www.zjstech.net/~ddixson/Unintended_Consequences.pdf


37 posted on 04/04/2013 4:42:53 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Travis McGee
Ahh, that's the $64K question, ehh ?

If it's close enough for the ol' fella to get there, I hope they don't start without me !

38 posted on 04/04/2013 4:51:58 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Travis McGee
That's a good question.............

I don't wish it to happen....but I think it's going to happen.

39 posted on 04/04/2013 5:07:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: raptor22

We are at war.....


40 posted on 04/04/2013 5:11:06 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: Norm Lenhart
no not really.

if you look at the test vote against this treaty you will see that no Republican voted for it in the Senate. it requires senate confirmation or ratification and they did a test vote . Almost every democrat voled for this treaty. same as the Obamacare vote all democrats voted for obamacare all Republicans voted against Obama care. not unanimous but similar party line votes against Amnesty

democrat party = traitors = enemy of Americans = enemy of freedom

To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00091

Meet the 46 United States Senators (Traitors) who were willing to sign over your 2nd amendment rights to the United Nations.

NAYs -—46
Baldwin (D-WI)
... Baucus (D-MT)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

41 posted on 04/04/2013 5:19:32 PM PDT by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: dfwgator
He signs it, and you’ve got Civil War II....States will secede over this.

He's just one man, and doesn't possess the power to make that treaty binding upon the rest of us.

Now, should Congress sign off on it, it would surely be the start of something 'special'.

42 posted on 04/04/2013 5:19:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

And for what’s it worth, I don’t think it will ever be ratified.


43 posted on 04/04/2013 5:20:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Democrat_media

And where are the podium speeches? The TV talk show appearances? Have you heard more than 2 repubs in the house pontificate? They sure do on gay marriage.

They should have had this front and center weeks ago.

They did not. And when Obama gets his exec order pen out there will likewise be silence rather than impeachment.


44 posted on 04/04/2013 5:23:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Travis McGee
Where and when will be the Fort Sumter Moment?

Might I suggest Turtle Bay NYC ?

45 posted on 04/04/2013 5:24:01 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: raptor22

On radio, I heard a caller say “We are in a Cold Civil War”—

I agree 100%. But, increasingly, I’m ready for the war to get hot.


46 posted on 04/04/2013 5:24:42 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: dfwgator; All

if you look at the test vote against this treaty you will see that no Republican voted for it in the Senate. it requires senate confirmation or ratification and they did a test vote . Almost every democrat voted for this treaty. same as the Obamacare vote all democrats voted for obamacare all Republicans voted against Obama care. not unanimous but similar party line votes against Amnesty

democrat party = traitors = enemy of Americans = enemy of freedom

To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00091

46 voted for this treaty . 46 are democrats

Meet the 46 United States Senators (Traitors) who were willing to sign over your 2nd amendment rights to the United Nations.

NAYs -—46
Baldwin (D-WI)
... Baucus (D-MT)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)


47 posted on 04/04/2013 5:24:49 PM PDT by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: dfwgator
for what’s it worth, I don’t think it will ever be ratified.

Neither do I, but that test vote shows us that we are indeed divided between those who love and are willing to defend this nation, and those who would throw it all away for some imagined utopia.

I wish the utopians would just move their asses to some Communist wonderland and leave us the hell alone.

48 posted on 04/04/2013 5:27:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Still Thinking; StopGlobalWhining; Straight Vermonter; Tampa Caver; TChris; ...

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49 posted on 04/04/2013 5:31:08 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Mortrey

ditto that

from us in Louisiana


50 posted on 04/04/2013 5:38:19 PM PDT by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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