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Immigration bill would import 1 million workers per year
The Daily Caller ^ | 4/5/2013 | Neil Munro

Posted on 04/05/2013 3:27:55 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Gen.Blather

It is really a shame that men’s personal egos and ambitions have taken precedence over their principles. I know that great men have always had a sort of ambitious streak, call it what you will, but this is different.


21 posted on 04/05/2013 8:31:12 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: OldPossum

You sound old, badly-educated, and unemployed.


22 posted on 04/05/2013 8:54:41 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: firebrand
business owners, who get to pay them less.

Reminding us once again that "conservative" and "pro-business" are not identical.

23 posted on 04/05/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: warchild9
My wife is Cuban, and a Reagan Republican. Keep your racist spew to yourself.

The younger Cubans vote Obama/Democrat. Go ask Gloria and Emilio Estefan. Still these younger Cubans have more Republicans than do Mexican-Americans by a long shot

24 posted on 04/05/2013 9:21:51 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: markomalley; sickoflibs; Liz; All

WE don’t need more ‘guestworkers’!

[snip]Under current rules, companies bring in roughly 650,000 non-agricultural workers per year, according to Jessica Vaughan, a researcher at the Center for Immigration Studies.

Roughly half of the today’s inflow of 650,000 can apply for green cards and citizenship.

The current inflow of visa-workers includes roughly 340,000 seasonal workers who work in hotels, resorts, restaurants and other jobs where demand drops in the winter months. The seasonal total includes roughly 180,000 J-visa workers, 55,000 H-2B workers and roughly 25,000 entertainers and support staff, such as carnival and circus workers.

These seasonal workers hold jobs that were once widely sought by middle-class Americans seeking money for college, any by working-class Americans whose income was topped up by unemployment checks during the winter.

Nationally, most of those jobs are still performed by Americans.

Under current rules, companies also import roughly 300,000 university trained workers on visas lasting from one to three years. These professionals include roughly 76,000 graduates working on one-year OPT visas and up to 500,000 graduates on renewable three-year H-1B visas.

The H-1B workers are especially valuable to companies such as Microsoft, Deloitte and Intel, because regulatory loopholes mean the workers can be paid at lower rates than more experienced and older American tech experts.

Many H-1B workers are computer experts, but companies are using the program to hire auditors, accountants, media experts, architects, professors, engineers, writers and other skilled professionals.

Many H-1Bs are hired by so-called “job shops,” which are immigrant-owned companies that build national networks of immigrants for low-wage contract work at Americans companies.

Other professional visas also include 75,000 “NAFTA visas” for Canadian and Mexican professionals, and 16,000 “O visas” for people with a “special ability.”

Many of the seasonal J-visa holders take professional-level jobs. In 2010, for example, the 181,484 J-visa workers included 2,110 doctors and 30,1254 “professors and scholars.”

Companies also import roughly 62,000 workers under so-called “L visas.” The L visas allow companies to transfer skilled or unskilled workers from overseas branches of a company to a U.S. branch. However, some of these L visas are won by family-owned companies seeking to bring relatives into the country.

Also, roughly 4,000 visas are being awarded to bring in religious workers, such as imams and priests.

The current visa count also understates the inflow of foreign workers, because many immigrants’ spouses are also allowed to work in the United States, said Vaughan.

Also, when workers become citizens, they are entitled to request green cards for their relatives. That family reunification process has massively increased the inflow of low-skill immigrants and retirees since the 1990s.

In 2012, for example, the reunification rules allowed the immigration of 540,000 working-age people aged from 17 to 64, said Vaughan. Most have few marketable skills, and must compete against unskilled Americans for jobs as gardeners, delivery drivers or cleaners. The 2012 inflow also included roughly 30,000 retirees, whose health-care and retirement costs will be paid by American workers.


25 posted on 04/05/2013 10:05:29 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: dfwgator

Re your post 18, good point.


26 posted on 04/05/2013 10:33:31 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: warchild9
You sound old, badly-educated, and unemployed.

You really aren't very good at assessing people, now are you?

I am old (perhaps the moniker "OldPossum" was a clue), 72 in fact. But I am not badly-educated (two degrees) and neither am I unemployed in the sense that I am of the age in which I should be working. I am retired and the retirement income of my wife and myself is $95,000 annually. Not too shabby, huh?

27 posted on 04/05/2013 10:38:02 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: markomalley

The good news is that the rest of us remaining will get the Diwali holiday off work too.


28 posted on 04/05/2013 11:40:46 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: markomalley

Republican Party elites have been jealous that the Democrats get to be the Party of Treason.

So they are crafting this immigration/amnesty bill in order to get in on the treason themselves.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 5:19:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: firebrand

“What’s Marco Rubio doing in the middle of this, is the better question”

That’s easy. Marco Rubio has a terrible record on immigration from his time in the Florida legislature.

If you want to see what he is really about versus his image, go look at how he sabotaged attempts by the Florida legislature to do something about illegal aliens.

Rubio is a pro-amnesty quisling. Don’t be fooled by his attempts to posture as an immigration patriot. He is anything but.


30 posted on 04/05/2013 5:24:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: AuntB; markomalley; Liz; Impy; Gilbo_3; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”WE don’t need more ‘guestworkers’!”

Yes, their arguments for new workers are full of holes.
At the same time pushing immigration and amnesty Libs make an tear-jerking HBO film ‘documentary’ that shows examples of working families poverty where they cant afford food.

American Winter(subtitle:'In the richest country in the world why are millions of families left out in the cold?' )
We were struck by the vast number of families who are in need of help to stay in their homes, or even to eat. These families were often able to get food assistance, to keep them from starving, but they could not get resources that could help them get back on their feet, and begin to support their families again.
In making American Winter we saw firsthand how stressed and scared these parents are everyday by the prospect of losing their homes, and by the daily struggle to pay their bills. However, the most overwhelming part was seeing the kids who have lost hope for their future. These kids see their parents work extremely hard, and the kids say to themselves, “we’re barely getting by everyday, how am I going to make it when I grow up?” And losing that sense of optimism and hope does not bode well for a child’s future.

link to American Winter(subtitle:'In the richest country in the world why are millions of families left out in the cold?' )

Then they argue that Americans REFUSE to do the jobs that immigrants will do. How does MORE competition raise salaries of workers?

How about skilled immigrants? Well they get those skills here in US colleges. Give those tuition breaks to Americans instead of foreigners.

I missed your pings, you are my Aunt Bee.

31 posted on 04/05/2013 6:41:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

:<), I’ll be around once in a while. Busy times.


32 posted on 04/06/2013 6:23:55 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: sickoflibs

bttt


33 posted on 04/06/2013 9:17:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: sickoflibs

This is the hypocrisy of the left, what do Americans need —JOBS! Why are we losing jobs? Because the government is taking all of our money, in addition there are far too many legal and illegal immigrants with little to no education who will do the jobs that lower skilled Americans should be doing. Will the libs speak out for restraining immigration? No they are all for immigration, legal or not, the more the merrier, then they pretend to care about these poor Americans. Either they are insane or total hypocrits.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 9:17:58 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: DooDahhhh

These folks are invited in because American voters are not doing their due diligence of voting out those politicians who do not serve our interests regarding immigration, legal or illegal. This problem is in both parties, look at how McCain, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake and many top Republicans are always eager to show how pro immigrant they are while disparaging Americans by calling them bigots or anti-immigrant. Look at all the mud wrestling over the Hispanic vote. These clowns are so tone deaf that they don’t realize how insulting they are too us, it is as if we do not even exist.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 9:24:16 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Pelham
Rubio is another opportunist. There are many of them, they take on whatever disguise is needed to get elected. This is why we have to take a closer look at who we elect. The political professionals are very good at reading public opinion, especially today with so many polls and focus groups. They know how we think, but they don't let us know how they really think. They have all the knowledge and they keep it close to the vest. Knowledge is power, they have the power and we don't.
36 posted on 04/06/2013 9:32:09 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Pelham; sickoflibs

” If you want to see what he is really about versus his image, go look at how he sabotaged attempts by the Florida legislature to do something about illegal aliens.

Rubio is a pro-amnesty quisling. Don’t be fooled by his attempts to posture as an immigration patriot. He is anything but.”

NAILED it!


37 posted on 04/06/2013 11:58:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Pelham

Got it.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 12:41:43 PM PDT by firebrand
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RE :”Rubio is a pro-amnesty quisling. Don’t be fooled by his attempts to posture as an immigration patriot. He is anything but.”
......
NAILED it!”

No, No, you have it ALL wrong.
Rubio is driving a real hard bargain to get the best deal for us from Democrats. He is holding firm their feet to the fire.

And he promises us that those illegals will vote conservative, just what we want. Esp when they see his smiling boy-like face. What could go wrong?

This is foolproof !

39 posted on 04/06/2013 7:21:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Foolproof : )


40 posted on 04/08/2013 10:29:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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