[upchuck]

The cuts to Medicare look like actual cuts, and perhaps even more significant, use means testing to generate revenues, a strategy that both parties have avoided in order to maintain the illusion that Medicare (and Social Security, which acts as a qualifier) aren’t welfare programs.

Social Security and Medicare are NOT welfare programs.

I bought and paid for my Social Security and Medicare benefits. Can a Food Stamp recipient say the same?

[JCBreckenridge]

So why don’t you let all of us opt out and then see where your ss benefits come from?

It’s a ponzi scheme.