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Grover vs. ‘the Bitter Enders’(Grover trying to give Rubio political cover)
NRO ^ | April 9,2013 | Betsy Woodruff

Posted on 04/09/2013 4:54:56 PM PDT by yongin

Grover Norquist is known as an anti-tax crusader, but in the coming weeks he will be just as much a pro-immigration crusader, combatting what he calls the “bitter enders” who oppose comprehensive immigration reform.

Norquist says that he’s trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.”

“The bitter-enders who are still responding to radio talk-show hosts from eight years ago haven’t noticed that the world has shifted from underneath them,” he says. “The people who need cover are the guys who are still voting like they were Pat Buchanan.”

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Norquist’s group, Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), is using its famous Wednesday meeting as a model for marshaling conservative activists behind an immigration overhaul. In recent weeks, Norquist and his advisers have hosted fortnightly Friday meetings for conservative leaders and pro-reform Republicans.

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1 posted on 04/09/2013 4:54:56 PM PDT by yongin
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To: yongin
You know what, Grover? Why don't you take your elitist, Islamist Beltway bull down the street and peddle it to someone who gives a sweet damn what you think.

Zero Amnesty, by whatever name, even for discussion, without a secure border.

Period.

2 posted on 04/09/2013 4:58:33 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: yongin
“Grover Norquist is known as an anti-tax crusader...”

Don’t call him a “Crusader” — that is offensive to his Mooselim associates,
I am outraged.

3 posted on 04/09/2013 5:02:23 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: yongin

“Norquist says that he’s trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.”

Hey, Grover, it’s more than a few radio talk-show hosts.

For those who want an excellent read on our immigration problem and why we should put a moratorium on all immigration, legal and illegal, you should check out Pat Buchanan’s excellent “state of Emergency”. Here it is for free...

http://archive.org/details/State-of-Emergency-Pat-Buchanan


4 posted on 04/09/2013 5:03:48 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: yongin

“Conservative” as a political term will soon be meaningless, the way it continues to be stretched. Leftists are good at that, redefining words to suit their agenda.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 5:06:23 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: yongin

The Muslim Brotherhood in America, 10 part series, exposing Islamist influence in the United States, including such persons as Grover Norquist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?


6 posted on 04/09/2013 5:12:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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THE UNITED WEST-SEMINAR JULY 24, 2012 - THE FIRST, SECOND, and THIRD SESSION

The American West, a group led by Tom Trento, held a seminar on the threat to the United States by Islamists, specifically, the Muslim Brotherhood, with a series of sessions led by Tom Trento and John Guandolo, former Marine and FBI Agent of 12 years.

This is an excellent series. Each video is approximately 2 hours long. There are two more videos to follow. COPY these videos and distribute it to all your church members, friends and family.

1st: http://youtu.be/qxP6dJL0G4A

2nd : http://youtu.be/fCa5zm8i0Ks

3rd: http://youtu.be/hNaqA_DmrM0

Andrew McCarthy on the Muslim Brotherhood and huma Abadin and hillary
1:30 minutes
http://youtu.be/AjY9xKd0EGU

The sister in-law of Tony Blair, the former Prime Minister of England, Lauren Booth, is now a Muslim and here she is at a Mosque in California:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yNlOVQ4R2U

The Muslim Brotherhood in America, 10 part series, exposing Islamist influence in the United States, including such persons as Grover Norquist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2hpEOngyo&list=SPF834C7965BEA6BCC&feature=plcp

Frank Gaffney, the Center for Security policy
https://www.facebook.com/#!/securefreedom

Steve Coughlin, on Islam and the West, the Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZe7eZK4dw&feature=bf_prev&list=SP4C29D87AA600650F

Bill Warner on Islam
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bill+Warner+Islam%2C+long&lclk=long

GLENN BECK
The Project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPIaEVrS8U&list=UUfwzGhe9U4UnbYl60Tud9ww&index=3

EGYPTIAN NEWSPAPER SAYS OBAMA ADMINSTRATION IS INFILTRATED BY MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/010913-640022-infiltration-by-muslim-brotherhood-worse-than-thought.htm


7 posted on 04/09/2013 5:13:22 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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To: Zuse; Prospero; Liz; sickoflibs; Pelham; wardaddy; raybbr; cripplecreek; All

Bitter-enders UNITE!!!!

Well, Mr. Norquist, I’d rather be called a BITTER ENDER than an illegal alien, radical islam loving traitor like you! THE ONLY good thing this man EVER did was ATM..or at least it sounds conservative, but it really isn’t...because when we conservatives donate to it, he goes to capital hill and lobbies for MICROSOFT or GE!

He’s hijacked the tea party name, and will destroy it...after all we tea partiers are ALL BITTER ENDERS!

Grassroots GOP..Grover Norquist is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the Republican party. He WROTE George Bush/McLames amnesty!

Please, FR keyword Norquist...go read the truth about this guy and you will understand why the GOP is LOST!

or http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/ The search is in the upper left corner...just put in his name for YEARS of research...NONE of it good, he’s as corrupt as it gets!


8 posted on 04/09/2013 5:21:49 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: yongin; moonshinner_09; donna; La Lydia; chicagolady; SwinneySwitch; blackie; All; Olog-hai; ...

“ATR is already trying to debunk Heritage’s claim (authored by senior research fellow Robert Rector) that reform would result in an entitlement-spending hike of more than $2 trillion”

Norquist has destroyed every immigration ‘reform’ since the 80s including prop 187 in California. He will use ANY method to do it. Obama has NOTHING on dishonesty over Grover. In fact, Obama Muslim advisors happen to be associates of Grovers!http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=muslim+advisors

“ATR and Norquist are also in the loop on Gang of Eight talks. They get inside information on the status of the discussions, and they pass that information along to conservative leaders. They don’t directly shape the Senate negotiations, but they work to influence Republican messaging.

They’re trying to give Senator Marco Rubio’s office a little relief, at least in the public square and within the movement. “

I knew it...it stunk like NORQUIST! If Rubio is wrapped up with Norquist, he has to go and cannot be trusted!


9 posted on 04/09/2013 5:35:14 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: RaceBannon

BTT and thanks.


10 posted on 04/09/2013 5:36:40 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: All

“In short, Lopez argues that anti-comprehensive-reform forces are often also pro-abortion, pro-eugenics, and pro-sterilization. ATR’s leaders have put the Lopez study in front of every prominent social conservative leader they know. “

This is straight out of the SPLC! Norquist is just as leftist, just as radical and much more dangerous! ALL those Christians in the tea party just got slammed pretty much like Obama does...Norquist is no more a Christian than Obama, and no more a conservative either! Though Norquist won’t admit to being Muslim, he married one and promotes the most radical of them...one of his Muslim donors is in prison!


11 posted on 04/09/2013 5:50:42 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Karl Rove and the GOPe says that they need to appeal to Latinos to win elections. By passing immigration reform, they believe Latinos will suddenly like them. However, Obama will get all the credit and lock 90% of the Latino vote for the next 40 years. Look at the Civil Rights Act. Republicans broke the Senate Filibuster to pass civil rights for blacks. But blacks give LBJ all the credit.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 5:55:37 PM PDT by yongin (If the GOP embraces gay marriage, then more Mark Foley scandals will emerge)
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To: yongin

Exactly.


13 posted on 04/09/2013 6:05:03 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Well stated. Norquist revealed that whatever his agenda, he is not a patriotic American. One look at their crime rates, life styles, and contempt for our laws would show we would be better off if they are deported.

Why would anybody support illegal aliens? Is it because they
1. are bribed, blackmailed, or have some other vested interest,
2. hate this country,
3. hope to turn it into a Third World nation,or
4. are delusional and think the illegals will improve our gene pool or bring in wealth to this country?

14 posted on 04/09/2013 6:10:47 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Well, it ain’t poor Hondurans that Grover is wanting in this country...is Muslims. Don’t forget he went to bat to get the Mosque on Ground Zero built too.


15 posted on 04/09/2013 6:23:25 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

What a creep. No, he definitely does not have the best interests of this country in mind. Why is he for Muslims? Of course, so is the Federal government. Outrageous the amount of taxpayer money that is sent to Egypt, Pakistan, etc.


16 posted on 04/09/2013 6:54:37 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Grover Norquist is a DMR.

Democrat masquerading as a republican. Sadly, that’s most of of the Republican leadership.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 6:54:55 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Dante3

“What a creep. No, he definitely does not have the best interests of this country in mind. Why is he for Muslims? Of course, so is the Federal government. Outrageous the amount of taxpayer money that is sent to Egypt, Pakistan, etc.”

Well, he married a Muslim, but seems he was pro muslim before that. He got her an important spot in USAID. He got his brother in the Defense Dept. and Abramoff into Bush’s white house.

If you’re just getting aquainted with his background, you’re in for some surprises. First, he and Rove and Ralph Reed are really close, involved in money laundering, IMO, using all the ‘non profits’. Start here:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Norquist+CPAC

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Grover+Norquist

My favorite Norquist quote: “I started out as a right-winger, and when I retire I want to be a squishy middle-of-the-roader,” he jokes, chortling at the thought. Grover Norquist.

According to a report referenced in the blog, Norquist gets two-thirds of his funding from two big corporate billionaire-backed nonprofits: the Center to Protect Patients Rights, which donated $4,189,000 to Americans for Tax Reform in 2010, and Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS, which gave him $4 million.”

And he’s been a lobbyist for Bill Gates...this is ALL about cheap labor and lop sided trade deals for the likes of Microsoft.


18 posted on 04/09/2013 7:14:04 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: yongin

Speaking of Karl Rove, see post 18.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 7:14:56 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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20 posted on 04/09/2013 7:35:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: yongin; All

“Norquist says that he’s trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.” [snip]”

That’s interesting. I have yet to hear Beck, Hannity, Levin or Rush ever mention Grover Norquist, much less expose this monster. Does he OWN all of them??


21 posted on 04/09/2013 7:39:00 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Intersting. I knew little about him. I never trusted Rove.


22 posted on 04/09/2013 8:03:50 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Prospero

We’ve been here since the early 1700’s, fought in every war.
If immigration law means nothing, then ALL laws mean nothing!


23 posted on 04/09/2013 8:15:24 PM PDT by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Mexico thinks we are the dumping ground for their excess population and their criminals. Although Mexico, who has turned into an enemy nation, enforces tough laws regarding illegals, it demands that we cater to illegals aliens.
24 posted on 04/09/2013 8:31:48 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: yongin; All

No Real Conservative supports Illegal Alien Amnesty

And no “anti-tax crusader” supports spending programs that will give TRILLIONS to people who broke the law

Grover Norquist is Anti-American


25 posted on 04/09/2013 9:18:27 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: yongin

So Grover Norquist is a member of the Treason Lobby?

Now who would have ever guessed that?

Well probably anyone who has been paying attention to what he’s been doing since the late 90s.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 11:09:29 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: mrsmel

““Conservative” as a political term will soon be meaningless, the way it continues to be stretched.”

‘Every great cause begins as movement, degenerates into a business, and ends as a racket’.

The movement that once elected Ronald Reagan entered the racket stage some time ago.


27 posted on 04/09/2013 11:13:13 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: AuntB

“That’s interesting. I have yet to hear Beck, Hannity, Levin or Rush ever mention Grover Norquist, much less expose this monster. Does he OWN all of them??”

I don’t know about that, but Rush has been playing waterboy for Rubio at the same time that he has been denouncing the amnesty-by-another-name that Rubio is pushing.


28 posted on 04/09/2013 11:19:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: yongin

This guy Norquist turned out to be a real scumbag. Wow.
He shoulda stuck with taxes.


29 posted on 04/09/2013 11:22:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: yongin

Between this white-flag squish Norquist and the Heritage Foundation, I’ll go with the Heritage Foundation.
Every time.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 11:32:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: yongin

Grover can GTH.

By invoking the term “bitter enders,” he sounds like the Marxist.

SEAL THE BORDER FIRST.

This rush for “immigration Reform” is nonsense.


31 posted on 04/09/2013 11:43:24 PM PDT by onyx
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To: SunkenCiv
This is exactly how the left first infiltrated, then took over the "cathedral" (academia/media/government nexus), are trying to do to Christianity, and have just about finished off the military. For some time now I have had absolutely no doubt that they are in the process of infiltrating and imploding the Republican party and the conservative movement. The very few movements/organisations/institutions they can never infiltrate (true Christianity, true conservatives), they are marginalising and demonising. Plus they have the advantage that those movements get smaller and smaller as the wheat gets separated from the chaff.
32 posted on 04/10/2013 12:17:33 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Pelham

Besides being a racket, it’s losing whatever force it once had through leftist infiltration. Reagan was a blip on the screen in America’s leftwards shift, and even he presided over amnesty.


33 posted on 04/10/2013 12:20:56 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

Well stated, mrsmel.


34 posted on 04/10/2013 12:27:04 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: mrsmel

The military is in turmoil because of the pro-gay anti-war pro-illegal immigation stupid rules of engagement and of course blaming the Navy for North Korea’s dictatorship’s recent stupidity, but I remember reservists I was working with in the 1990s telling me how they weren’t going to reenlist, and how no one they knew was going to either, because of Slick. Long run, the military will be in the best shape of all. And it’s easy to see why — sectarian turmoil, faux-idealogical turmoil.


35 posted on 04/10/2013 3:36:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
My brother said all that too under Clinton, but under Hussein, he said it and meant it.

Kind of like serving under Carter-nobody liked him as CIC, but it didn't intrinsically change the military culture, though it didn't help morale.

Serving under a weasel like Clinton, and being forced to serve with and under open sodomites and females in combat, are on different levels. Even though the military probably won't be deluged with sodomites enlisting, the ones who are there are going to use their power-just as the small but loud segment has in general society-and press their advantages. Also, the anti-Christianity cast the sodomites’ open and loud presence in the military is producing, might deter just the kind of traditional types who wanted to serve, from enlisting. That's certainly what they're saying on some Christian forums I frequent.

Even people whose families have served for generations are saying that they're telling their sons and grandsons that they would no longer recommend serving in this military.

I don't doubt that this is just the result that Hussein and the string-pullers wanted. A military which doesn't trust ordinary Americans, and in turn is not trusted by them. A reflection of this government (both parties) which doesn't trust ordinary Americans (bitter clingers, more gun control) and in turn is less trusted by them.

36 posted on 04/10/2013 4:59:12 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Zuse
Don’t call him a “Crusader” — that is offensive to his Mooselim associates...

LOL!

37 posted on 04/10/2013 1:25:17 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: yongin; All

One of Grover’s amnesty buddies, Cesar Conda is Rubios chief of staff!

Exclusive: Senator Marco Rubio’s Chief of Staff Maintains Financial Ties To Lobbying Firm

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/marco-rubio-lobbyist/

[snip]What sets Rubio’s office apart is Conda’s continued financial relationship with his lobbying firm. While many lobbyists tunnel deep into the upper echelons of government, most at least severe overt ties with their former clients. In Rubio’s case, his chief of staff still has an umbilical cord attached to K Street.

WAKE UP TEA PARTY, you are being USED!

Conda was Dick Cheney’s domestic policy advisor. He left there and went to work for George Soros. He is ALL about AMNESTY, always has been. He & Norquist destroyed prop 187 in California and they’re both tied into amnesty promotion with NEWT Gingrich!

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=cesar+conda

WE MUST ROOT THESE INFILTRATORS OUT! THey are out to destroy conservatism and we are funding them! It’s the same bunch behind the scenes EVERY TIME.

Rubio must be voted out....he is a Norquist/Rove/Bush man!!! Part of what they’ve done is hijack several ‘tea party’ names for fundraising and they use the $$$ AGAINST US!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3006980/posts?page=15#15


38 posted on 04/12/2013 1:49:33 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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