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AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year
AP/Boston.com ^ | April 19, 2013

Posted on 04/19/2013 3:50:48 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: TomGuy

From Mother Jones (Mother Jones!):

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube

Boston Bombing Suspect Posted Video on Al Qaeda Prophecy on YouTube

—By Adam Serwer
| Fri Apr. 19, 2013 5:45 AM PDT

The deceased suspect in the bombing of the Boston marathon, which killed three and injured more than 170, appears to have posted a video extolling an extremist religious prophecy associated with Al Qaeda to his YouTube page.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26 year-old brother of the second Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, had a YouTube page where he posted religious videos, including a video of Feiz Mohammad, a fundamentalist Australian Muslim preacher who rails against the evils of Harry Potter. Among those videos is one dedicated to the prophecy of the Black Banners of Khurasan which is embraced by Islamic extremists—particularly Al Qaeda. The videos posted on what appears to be Tsarnaev’s YouTube page may shed light on the motivations for the attack on the Boston Marathon. The prophecy states that an invincible army will come from the region of “Khurasan,” a large portion of territory in central Asia.

“This is a major hadith (reported saying of the prophet Muhammad) that jihadis use, it is essentially an end-time prophecy,” says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy “This is definitely important in Al Qaeda’s ideology.” In The Black Banners, former FBI agent Ali Soufan’s book about his pursuit of Al Qaeda that is named after this prophecy, Soufan describes the prophecy this way:

Khurasan is a term for a historical region spanning northeastern and eastern Iran and parts of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, and northwestern Pakistan. Because of the hadith, jihadists believe that this is the region from which they will inflict a major defeat against their enemies—in the Islamic version of Armageddon.

The older Tsarnaev seems to have posted the video four months ago under the username “muazseyfullah.” According to Zelin, “Mu’az is usually a name,” and “Sayf Allah means sword of God.” Here is the video:

According to Soufan’s book, “It’s not a coincidence that bin Laden made al-Qaeda’s flag black; he also regularly cited the hadith and referenced Khurasan when recruiting, motivating, and fund-raising.” Soufan adds that Al Qaeda operatives he interrogated were often convinced that by joining the extremist group they were fulfilling the prophecy. Soufan states that the origin of the “black banners” hadith—and whether the prophet Muhammad ever said it—is questionable.


201 posted on 04/19/2013 5:50:42 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Colofornian

Yeah, but their middle names were Sarah Palin. Can’t these media guys get anytthing right?


202 posted on 04/19/2013 5:53:40 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Democrat_media

“yes that is true, keyword here is Islam.”

No, the keyword here is Sarah Palin. Get with the program.


203 posted on 04/19/2013 5:54:43 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Fresh Wind

“...One is Jewish, the other is Muslim. One wants to live in peace, the other one wants to kill him....”

It really IS that stark a difference, isn’t it, when you think about it...

Most people the world over - conservative, liberal, Christian, Jewish, German, Irish, black, white, asian, - whatever - just want to be left the hell alone to live out their lives, raise their families, chase their dreams in peace.

And then there’s others who just don’t understand the whole concept of live and let live.

Frigging ridiculous, isn’t it....


204 posted on 04/19/2013 5:59:37 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; NFHale; onyx; BillyBoy; BunnySlippers; Democrat_media; GeronL

RT (Russia Today), a Russian government funded English language news network is calling these guys “homegrown” American terrorists cause their parents brought them here in 2002.

The President of Chechnya (Vladimir Obama?) is saying they have “no link to Chechnya”.


205 posted on 04/19/2013 6:17:52 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: onyx

Trying to catch up after a few hours sleep. How developments change so quickly!


206 posted on 04/19/2013 6:30:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: R0CK3T

What the H are they doing in the US?

Nexis also shows he was a registered voter.

“I have no American friends, I don’t understand them.”

OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS DID THIS.

It is a direct result of thier policies.


207 posted on 04/19/2013 6:39:39 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Colofornian
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208 posted on 04/19/2013 6:40:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Suspect is gone.


209 posted on 04/19/2013 7:23:15 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50c)
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To: Mr. K
Which people are safer? The homeowners with guns or those without?

Chris Wallace on Foxnews just asked the same question?

210 posted on 04/19/2013 7:27:00 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Wyatt's Torch

You are a blessing, I am back now, thank you for getting screen shots of all of this, can you make sure you get all the links recorded? They will scrub all ties to Islam as soon as CAIR gets involved. Again thank you


211 posted on 04/19/2013 7:28:25 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: maggief

THis is also going on:

UPDATE: Two men in custody as investigation into Massachusetts car continues in Falls
Niagara Falls Police Superintendent Bryan DalPorto said two men are being detained as Falls and State Police continue to investigate a car with Massachusetts plates on Elmwood Avenue.
DalPorto said the two men are not Russion nationals but would not comment further on the subject.
Falls police received a tip from a passerby of the car and the car was stopped by a patrolman. The two men in the car are being detained for questioning, DalPorto said.
Meanwhile, Falls and New York State Police have closed off Elmwood Avenue between 18th and 19th streets while the state police bomb squad’s robotic device investigates the black Nissan.
“We’re not sure of the contents of the car or what their activity is,” DalPorto said of the situation.
It’s early in the investigation, added Capt. Craig Hanesworth of the New York State Police.
“There are items in the car,” he said. “what they are, we don’t know.”
Police were not evacuating the area behind City Market, but police were urging people in the area to stay in their homes.
http://niagara-gazette.com/local/x437168835/UPDATE-2-men-in-custody-as-investigation-into-Mass-car-continues-in-Falls


212 posted on 04/19/2013 7:31:43 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Bushbacker1

Maybe he’s a lurker!


213 posted on 04/19/2013 9:32:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Colofornian

Were they...Amish?


214 posted on 04/19/2013 9:32:53 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Colofornian

I seem to remember an article from a few years back stating Al Qaeda was looking to recruit non-Arib looking terrorist to carry out attacks in the U.S. and Europe, specifically from places like Chechnya.

Looks to me like they were successful, and I also think that 3rd suspect the Saudi was here to observe and perhaps provide technical assistance.


215 posted on 04/19/2013 10:08:42 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Impy
>> 1 of these bastards, I can’t keep track with their similar first names, got a goddamn scholarship from the city of Cambridge to go to MIT. Taxpayer-funded terrorist. <<

Hey, how dare you attack this young man! The DREAMERS are defacto Americans in every way, many of them the best and brightest in their field, and they want to make productive citizens of themselves, but don't have access to affordable college simply because of their immigration status. Why do we want to punish people for success, it must be racism...

Oh wait! You mean he's a TERRORIST and killed people? Nevermind then. This guy is a foreign national and big imperialist America has no right to punish him, especially with our barbaric capital punishment laws. We must contact the embarrass of his home country immediately and ensure he is given proper legal representation from his country of origin, who should have jurisdiction over him...

< insane liberal mindset right now>

216 posted on 04/19/2013 10:34:16 AM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: dforest

You would think they would be uses to it by now, every-time an act of mass murder or takes places its always a leftist a nutcase(with leftist history) or mulsulem terrorist.


217 posted on 04/19/2013 11:15:39 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ecomcon

They immigrated in 2002. The media will blame George W. Bush for them being allowed into the country.


218 posted on 04/19/2013 11:46:59 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspects-dad-tells-son-surrender-hell/story?id=18995936

The elder Tsarnaev, in a series of conversations with ABC News, insisted that his sons were innocent, but said he would appeal to his son to “surrender peacefully.”

“Give up. Give up. You have a bright future ahead of you. Come home to Russia,” the dad said.

The father warned, however, “If they killed him, then all hell would break loose.”

“If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame,” the father told ABC News. “Someone, some organization is out to get them.”


219 posted on 04/19/2013 2:05:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: BillyBoy; onyx; AuH2ORepublican; Democrat_media; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; BunnySlippers; ...

Just the other day my mom, who studied Russian, told me you could transliterate cyrillic any number of ways.

Obviously the 2 similar D names were the same name transliterated differently, the dead older brother was named Tamerlan. So that media profile I found was of the currently still living one. I apologize for this mistake. ;d

http://vk.com/id160300242

world view ISLAM

Tamerlan was questioned 2 years ago about radical ties.

Yet his uncle or some other d-bag says it had nothing to do with Islam.

A coinky-dink. Obviously these are tax-protesing, tea-party radical Muslims. Riiiiiiiiiiight.


220 posted on 04/19/2013 5:20:02 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; All

“Yet his uncle or some other d-bag says it had nothing to do with Islam.”

My first thought about the uncle: He doth protest too much.


221 posted on 04/19/2013 5:22:42 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

O’Reilly just said the dad thinks it’s a “frame-up”.

I supsect the entire family, they could be innocent but I supsect them.


222 posted on 04/19/2013 5:26:58 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Suspect.


223 posted on 04/19/2013 5:27:41 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy

“I supsect the entire family, they could be innocent but I supsect them.”

You have to assume EVERY Islamo is a terrorist. Worked here with the Japs in WW2, eh? The last was that this country won, BY FIGHTING A WAR AS A WAR NOT A POLICE ACTION!!!

Did you know JOE DIMAGGIO’S PARENTS were under surveillance during WW2. Yes, THE Joe D...like they were spies for Mussolini.


224 posted on 04/19/2013 5:33:25 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: Impy

No doubt.


225 posted on 04/19/2013 5:34:02 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Djoroslav was a HIPPY.

Hippy is a gateway ideology.


226 posted on 04/19/2013 5:38:18 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Wow, I never heard that.


227 posted on 04/19/2013 5:40:01 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy

Damn right!!!


228 posted on 04/19/2013 5:40:50 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: Impy

Yes, I saw it on the Military Channel.


229 posted on 04/19/2013 5:41:54 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: markomalley

;’)


230 posted on 04/19/2013 6:02:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SkyPilot

Yep, big mouth piece of crap Cuomo.

Speaking for those “POOR INDIANS AND SCHOOL CHILDREN GETTING MASSACRED”, and yet trading them condoms, booze and corruption in exchange for guns, property, dignity and the respect of their thoughts, completely school and sex addled indoctrinated and enslaved in “public school” aka as prison life conditioning.


231 posted on 04/25/2013 9:51:49 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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