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Boy Scouts propose lifting ban on gays, but only for youth
Reuters ^ | 4/19/13 | Atossa Araxia Abrahamian

Posted on 04/19/2013 11:26:04 AM PDT by Nachum

The Boy Scouts of America on Friday moved to partially lift its long-standing ban on gays, with a decision that would allow openly gay youth members but continue to bar gay adults in one of the largest youth serving organizations in America. If the resolution is approved in a nationwide vote in May, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization´s spokesman, told Reuters. The report found religious groups linked to the Scouts were concerned with homosexual adult leaders not with youth

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boy; bsa; culturewars; gays; homosexualagenda; scouts
Heard they're changing the name of the Boy Scouts to "Rump Rangers"
1 posted on 04/19/2013 11:26:04 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

There will be some back lash over that.


2 posted on 04/19/2013 11:27:21 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Nachum

OK Moms and Dads it’s time to get your SONS out of “Scouting”!


3 posted on 04/19/2013 11:27:22 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Nachum

“Billy. This is your openly gay troop mate Reginald. You’ll be bunking with him during next weekend’s camping trip. Did you pack your vaseline?”


4 posted on 04/19/2013 11:28:08 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Nachum

Think of all the new merit badges...

Can anyone offer names of organizations where normal kids who don’t want political indoctrination and correctness can go?


5 posted on 04/19/2013 11:28:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Nachum

> Heard they’re changing the name of the Boy Scouts to “Rump Rangers”

May as well.

They’re done.

Only Leftists will send their boys to the boy scouts any more. In fact, Leftists really haven’t participated much in the Scouts, but this might give them a reason to put their children at risk in even another situation other than the gummint schools.


6 posted on 04/19/2013 11:28:52 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Nachum

I was afraid of this. A couple of real buggers got in at the top, and were determined to do this.

One step at a time—of course.

One of my grandsons made Eagle Scout last year, and his younger brother is working on doing the same.

Now what?


7 posted on 04/19/2013 11:29:09 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Nachum

That’s all they gotta’ do to totally lose all my support. I’ll never speak nice of them again. If they give in to these sodomites, then may they all go to hell.


8 posted on 04/19/2013 11:30:42 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: US Navy Vet

May I suggest parents look at other Scouting type organizations that are sponsored by churches? There are things like Awana, Royal Rangers, Royal Ambassadors, etc...


9 posted on 04/19/2013 11:31:12 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Nachum; xzins
This policy is not going to satisfy anyone. It is not enough for the homosexual agenda pushers and it is too much for the family values people.

It will end the Boy Scouts as an organization. This is suicide.

10 posted on 04/19/2013 11:31:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Cicero

Everyone wants to walk away but that is what they want us all to do!

We should stay in it and fight. Get good people to run the show at the top and reverse this crap. Do what they do, infiltrate and gradually change the org from within.


11 posted on 04/19/2013 11:31:32 AM PDT by bigtoona
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To: US Navy Vet

notice how the homostapo does not set up their own boy scout group but instead want others to change their views to accept them


12 posted on 04/19/2013 11:32:36 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: littleharbour

The inclusion of homosexuals in scouting has resulted in allegations of molestation and an acceleration in the decline of Canadian Scouting. No sane parent would let their son participate in such an organization. This is an excerpt from 2010 on the demise of Scouting in Canada. Canada’s population is now almost double what it was in 1965, so the drop as a percentage of population is even more stark than the numbers indicate:

“Like its female-only counterpart, Girl Guides of Canada, Scouts Canada has been losing members for decades. As of this week, the organization had 75,999 youths registered in its programs, down 73 per cent from its peak of 286,414 in 1965. Last year, in an action plan drawn up by the Scouts Canada chief commissioner’s task force, the organization was presented with an unpleasant fact: If membership continues to decline at the average annual rate it has since 1997, Scouts Canada will be out of members by 2017.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/its-not-your-leave-it-to-beaver-scouts-any-more/article1376409/?page=all


13 posted on 04/19/2013 11:33:47 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Nachum

Not sure how that would be able to prohibit gay Cub Scouts that are between the ages of 8 and 12 or younger Boy Scouts.


14 posted on 04/19/2013 11:33:49 AM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: Nachum
no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone . . ."

I think it is more like a loophole, properly applied, to say "We didn't boot you out of the B.S.A. because of your sexual orientation or preference, but because you were a pervert who disrupted the harmony of our group."

Give the B.S.A. credit for having to walk a tightrope here. Without some such statement, they could be facing a slow death by 1000 lawsuits by the emboldened gay mafia. With it, a "gay" scout is going to have to behave. How likely do you think that is to happen?

It was never about gay boys into scouting anyway. It has always been about giving gay adults access to boys. This is going to frustrate the gay mafia to no end.

15 posted on 04/19/2013 11:41:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: littleharbour

I took over leadership of my son’s cub pack about two weeks ago. About a week before, a gay dad applied to get their son in the troop. The kid is 7. I didn’t realize, but the dad also put in an adult application. I went to the scout shop this morning to hand in all the applications I had, and I realized the dad’s wasn’t in there. I was told that they couldn’t accept it, but that they could accept the boys. We aren’t affiliated to a church, so I am not comfortable “banning” people. I do think the boy should not be prevented from joining. However, I don’t know how I feel about having the dad be part of the troop. Little annoyed with the previous scout master...flaming liberal...my son is 8, and I haven’t had a talk with him about gays. Was hoping to avoid that conversation for many years. I am glad I didn’t have to make the decision, and that the Boy Scouts won’t accept the dad’s application. However, everything is so loosy goosy, I am sure that he will be around helping out. This is not a theoritical discussion!


16 posted on 04/19/2013 11:41:28 AM PDT by cavmustang
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To: cavmustang

I mean’t, the dad’s application was in the the set of applicaitons .


17 posted on 04/19/2013 11:42:32 AM PDT by cavmustang
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18 posted on 04/19/2013 11:46:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: cavmustang

That’s very disconcerting. When I think back to all the overnight outings we had with adult male leaders, there would have been unlimited opportunity for some homosexual predator to engage in abuse. Parents let their sons participate in these outings because of a then universal belief that the leaders, who were invariably fathers of some of the boys, were not in any way attracted to boys. The stories of abuse have been revealed in Canada and everyone is tying themselves in knots trying to explain that it has nothing to do with homosexuality. Meanwhile, parents are voting with their feet and Scouts Canada is dying.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/06/25/scouts-canada-reports.html


19 posted on 04/19/2013 11:47:40 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: OKRA2012

There is no such thing as a “Gay Cub Scout.” There are only little boys who have been abused by adult perverts.


20 posted on 04/19/2013 11:49:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I think amnesty is deader than a Chechen bomber." ~ LS)
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To: Nachum

Wouldn’t a scout having sexual relations when not married be a conflict of the “morally straight” pledge?


21 posted on 04/19/2013 11:51:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Vigilanteman
Give the B.S.A. credit for having to walk a tightrope here. Without some such statement, they could be facing a slow death by 1000 lawsuits by the emboldened gay mafia.

On the other hand, the gay mafia might see such a statement as a sign of weakness and be emboldened to push for further concessions. The BSA should Recall what Richard Pipes said about the Bolsheviks--when they are probing and strike iron, they stop; when they strike butter, they keep pushing.

22 posted on 04/19/2013 11:54:19 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: bigheadfred; SandRat

Ping!


23 posted on 04/19/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Nachum

This Rooters story is hogwash, in that the “executive committee” of the Boy Scouts has two corporate tools on board, each of whom seriously back the homosexual agenda to the full extreme.

They have pressured the Scouts from within by offering huge amounts of money if they just sell their souls. But if they refuse, then the corporations they represent will cut them off.

And while they me able to bribe, threaten or coerce the executive committee, there is still going to be a nationwide vote in May. At that time, I hope that most likely when this is defeated, the next motion is to expel these two degenerates from not just the executive committee but from Scouting itself.

There was a serious vetting problem in them being able to get those positions in the first place, which they likely did by greasing some palms. But everyone associated with them, who “bears their mark on their forehead” needs to be sliced out like a tumor.


24 posted on 04/19/2013 12:05:52 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Fiji Hill
On the other hand, the gay mafia might see such a statement as a sign of weakness and be emboldened to push for further concessions.
You can count on it. The left always leans forward. They don't stop, they wait and agitate.
25 posted on 04/19/2013 12:08:24 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: bigtoona
Way is the BSA succumbing in the first place if they have numbers already opposing the homosexual totalitarians?

Money talks, integrity walks.

Start up another group instead, because unless you run several corporations you are not infiltrating squat.
26 posted on 04/19/2013 12:14:39 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: bigtoona

Way=Why, lol


27 posted on 04/19/2013 12:15:08 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Nachum

Rotten!


28 posted on 04/19/2013 12:17:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Raycpa
Please don't convoluted the problem any further, the sexualization of the BSA is top priority right now.
29 posted on 04/19/2013 12:17:34 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Excellent point, but see post #24.

The rank and file in scouting is dominated by conservative church sects. I don't think they will get it past them. But they do have to go through the motions.

FWIW, unless scouting has changed dramatically since I was involved (both as a youth and as an adult leader), there is nothing that even asks about a boy's sexual orientation.

A gay inclined boy would have no problem getting into the organization as long as he can meet the "morally straight" requirements. Those who don't care to do so have no more business joining the B.S.A. than a heterosexual pervert or pothead.

B.S.A. is an organization designed to turn boys into useful and productive young men. It is not a baby sitting club to turn useless punks into street thugs. The government sponsors gangs for that purpose.

30 posted on 04/19/2013 12:25:04 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: P-Marlowe; Nachum

This is step 1.

Step 2 will be: “They’ve been in scouting their whole lives, and now they want to give back to the organization, but they’re denied.”

It’s the foot inside the door.

How would you handle a gay youth as part of a church youth group? I think I’d handle it the same as a gay adult. Sure, you are more than welcome to attend our church. However, as with any Christian, joining requires renouncing sin, and leading requires being above reproach.


31 posted on 04/19/2013 12:29:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Nachum
Boys today means leaders in 5 years. Period. This is surrender.


32 posted on 04/19/2013 12:30:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Vigilanteman
B.S.A. is an organization designed to turn boys into useful and productive young men.

It certainly is. I was a member.

33 posted on 04/19/2013 12:44:21 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Nachum

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34 posted on 04/19/2013 1:28:30 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: All

Scouts Ping

ping


35 posted on 04/19/2013 5:05:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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