Skip to comments.Boy Scouts propose lifting ban on gays, but only for youth
Posted on 04/19/2013 12:05:40 PM PDT by upchuck
The Boy Scouts of America on Friday moved to partially lift its long-standing ban on gays, with a decision that would allow openly gay youth members but continue to bar gay adults in one of the largest youth serving organizations in America.
If the resolution is approved in a nationwide vote in May, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization's spokesman, told Reuters.
Gay rights groups want the ban lifted for youth and adults and the proposal immediately drew criticism.
"By refusing to consider an end to its ban on gay and lesbian parents, the Boy Scouts have missed an opportunity to exercise leadership and usher the organization back to relevancy," said Rich Ferraro, Vice President of Communications at GLAAD, which promotes lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights.
The resolution is the result of a study Smith called "the most comprehensive listening exercise in the history of Scouting" that found parents in three of four U.S. regions opposed the current membership policy.
While the issue remains divisive, "parents, adults in the Scouting community, and teens alike tend to agree that youth should not be denied the benefits of Scouting," concluded the study, which surveyed members, parents, religious groups and local councils.
"It wasn't very long ago that these guys stood before the Supreme Court and said that denying gays membership was a fundamental cornerstone belief of their organization," Boyle added, citing a 2000 Supreme Court ruling that granted the Boy Scouts the right to uphold their membership policy.
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So if it’s wrong for the leaders why is ti OK for the boys?
Camel. Nose. Tent.
Guess the Boy Scout Motto has to be changed .... pronto.
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.
Good question. It appears the queer lovers tried to strike a middle ground.
How can a queer take a vow to keep his body “morally straight?”
The last paragraph is interesting. Shows how far BSA has fallen in just a few years. This is the fault of the board of directors.
It’ll be ok as long as no one drops the soap.
How do the utes know and who taught them?
You can’t be a little bit pregnant.
My boys will be out if this happens. Too bad.
Now that the Boy Scouts have committed suicide, we need to start a new nondenominational, nonpartisan organization for boys that will prepare them for adulthood and instill in them the moral standards that the BSA once did.
Yep... If this proposal goes through, the Boy Scouts are dead to me.
It was a good, wholesome run.
The Heritage Boys!
If they are so irrelevant, why do you want to be a part of it? Answer that, Nancy Boy.
So, gay-sex with boy scouts will be OK when exactly?
16th B-day? 18th B-day?
The Boy Scout Mgmt is digging themselves a giant whole in which they intend to jump in and commit organizational suicide.
“The Boy Scouts of America on Friday moved to partially lift its long-standing ban on gays,”
That is like giving Obama the right to “register” all guns.
In the early 60’s my troop had a gay guy in it. He wasn’t in your face about it nor a preditor, he was just differnt. As kids do he was just part of the gang. While the rest of us were off hunting and fishing he picked flowers so we called him ‘Posey Picker’. Don’t recall any trouble out of him. He only had a mother and a little brother who was all kid. It was a kind of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ kind of thing.
My thought exactly when I saw the headline.
It’s preposterous to think if they allow boys who are “open” - which ultimately means acting out their sexual “orientation”, give it a few years (or months) and adults will be allowed as leaders. What are they going to do - let someone receive their Eagle Scout and without any change in behavior deny them participation as a leader a day later when they turn 18?
Exactly. Why would Gay Boy Scouts have loyalty to an organization that will toss them out when they are adults? That policy would be challenged immediately, and would be changed.
This proposal is tantamount to giving up the fight.
And that stinks.
BTW, I think this is the day in the public schools where some kids put tape on their mouths and refuse to speak in class, as a political protest against intolerance of gays. I’m not expecting this at my kids’ schools, but there are other public schools in our area where kids are participating.
Cannot vouch for them.
we need an alternate scouting movement that sticks with its moral and ethical principles
NO ADULT GAY LEADERS
He was probably panting uncontrollably while saying those words, thinking it's all.... soooooo... close....now.
The titular head of the Boy Scouts is a queer.
Barak Q. Obama.
Didn’t happen in my kid’s school either.
I agree but I think it needs to be imphasized that it’s not a done deal yet. All this guy is saying is that they are going to vote on the proposal. There is no indication that the votes will go the “gay” way.
My two boys earned the rank of Eagle Scout and I spent a better part of about 12 years holding various adult positions in my boys pack and troop. If the votes do go the ‘gay’ way, it will be the death knell of Boy Scouts in my area.
I’m sure the National Council is getting pressure from some of their deep pocket contributers to allow homosexuality, but the National has to decide if they respect God and His honor code or if they respect mammon more.
sign the petition
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Presumably all Scouts will continue to be exptected to be celibate throughout their time in the program, unless they are married. That’s what “morally straight” means.
1 Corinthians 15:33 “Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good morals.”
The little queers will corrupt the other children.
We see what has happened to churches which make themselves a welcome “home” for the unsaved—they become dens of iniquity. Churches are for believers. Believers should give the gospel to the unsaved, get them saved, then invite them to church.
The Boy Scouts should be for “morally straight” boys, not for boys “in transition.” The little queers should be converted to straight (if that is even possible) and only then permitted in. Not the other way around.
OK I have been waiting for several hours to access a “freepable” computer.
Now I’ve got all frustrated reading about this, I’ll probably make a mess of my thoughts. So I’ll keep it simple so if it’s silly to read at least there’s not a whole lot there.
Thanks. With all regards, BSA Life Scout.
I agree 100%.
I am not active in scouting anymore, but I am a strong supporter.
This is a nonsensical, brainless bunch of nonsense.
The Boy Scouts are one of the only remaining organizations one can be proud of.
DON’T MESS WITH IT.
Well, it takes out an important aspect of “morally straight.”
Also, it lends itself to homo. scouts growing up and saying, why can’t I be a leader? and here we go again.
Also the idea of a 17 year old homo. scout camping with some 14 year old potential playmates is disturbing. Boys have bullying tendencies often. Add sexual perversity into the mix and it gets worse.
There are some good organizations, such as Boys’ Brigade, and I can’t remember the names of the others.
Not as high profile as the Boy Scouts, but, if enough people join and support them, they will be.
Actually, I see the thought process here. The danger is from adult males who prey on the youngsters, not the boys themselves. Clearly there is huge pressure to include everyone.
The problem comes from the definition of morally straight. Now gay boys can consider their "feelings" to be morally straight. Unless the BSA is not going to amend that part, just let the gay boys in and have them suffer with not being in line with the scout teaching.
It was much maligned, but there is a huge amount of wisdom in the military's former "don't ask, don't tell." It let you keep your gayness private and prohibited anyone from asking. The scouts would be advised to allow such for the boys, not for the men.
Christian Scouts of America,
or something to that effect. as a private group they can be that.
the atheists and others already have their own summer camps and crap.