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To: Vince Ferrer

With respects to Mr. Deninnger, what could the police have done differently to catch Joker? In addition to the Boston Marathon bombings, he had been involved in the murder of an on duty police officer, and the injuring of another on duty police officer, and was in a shootout including the use of explosives while being pursed by other officers. He was hiding, he was armed, and he may have had explosives. What - TACTICALLY - could the police have done differently once they knew he was on foot in the Watertown neighborhood? If he wasn’t quickly found by dogs and helicopters, how could they KNOW he was not inside someone’s house with the occupants tied up and gagged, waiting until the police leave so he could take their car, unless they go door to door contacting the residents?


11 posted on 04/21/2013 5:15:43 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
what could the police have done differently to catch Joker?

Not let him drive away (possibly over his brother) would have been a good start. It ended up some guy found him in a boat and the only reason it took that long was because the boat owner was forced to stay inside. The cops could sign more permits (they need shall issue).

TACTICALLY

Park their fat asses at the dunkin donuts and wait since that's all they did in the end anyway.

14 posted on 04/21/2013 5:21:56 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Enterprise
"what could the police have done differently to catch Joker?"

The police are the experts, why don't you go ask them? I KNOW that martial law is not the effective answer. There are thousands of wanted fugitives in the nation. Are we supposed to go into martial law and perform house to house searches until they are all caught? That is what you seem to support.

Conversely, there are millions of prisoners in the US today. I don't know of any citywide martial law instances to catch them.


15 posted on 04/21/2013 5:22:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Enterprise
With respects to Mr. Deninnger, what could the police have done differently to catch Joker?

They could of had an officer in a cruiser follow him like stink on shit, white on rice and cold on ice to know where he went. And if it would have been me that found him in my boat, my throw away would have been pitched in after Mr .357 was through talking. The police then could come in and mop up his remains.
21 posted on 04/21/2013 5:51:18 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Enterprise
With respects to Mr. Deninnger, what could the police have done differently to catch Joker?

Well I hate to point out the obvious, but their gestapo tactis DIDN'T catch the a..hole. An ordinary serf found him.

45 posted on 04/22/2013 6:33:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Enterprise; from occupied ga

Ordering millions of Bostonians to stay inside their homes on “lockdown” (a term that comes to us from PRISONS, btw) took their millions of eyes out of the hunt. 10,000 armed paramilitary “police” never did find the perp after a full day of aggressive searching

Yet 1/2 hour AFTER the “lockdown” was lifted, a CIVILIAN found the perp hiding in his backyard. If the civilian had not been locked in his house by police orders, he would have checked his yard 14 hours earlier, and found the perp early in the morning, and saved Boston from “lockdown.”

BTW, what law or right did the police have to tell millions of free, innocent Americans to stay in their homes? “Lockdown” is what the guards do to unruly inmates in our PRISONS. When did America become a virtual PRISON anytime the police decide?

What right did the police have to do aggressive warrantless “home invasion” searches, dragging Americans outside like criminals? Do the actions of the paramilitary “police” in Boston bother you at all?


50 posted on 04/22/2013 6:49:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Enterprise

So when a dangerous criminal is lose you no longer have any fourth Amendment Rights? The police can just enter your home at will? What other Amendment get suspended in such a situation, because I would like to know?


51 posted on 04/22/2013 6:49:41 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Enterprise
What - TACTICALLY - could the police have done differently once they knew he was on foot in the Watertown neighborhood? If he wasn’t quickly found by dogs and helicopters, how could they KNOW he was not inside someone’s house with the occupants tied up and gagged, waiting until the police leave so he could take their car, unless they go door to door contacting the residents?

Violent criminals run from the police every day. I spent 20 years in law enforcement, and in Washington, DC manhunts for armed robbers, carjackers, rapists and murderers who had just evaded police occurred about 3 times a week in my district alone. While we have, on occasion, gone door to door, it was to A) warn residents and B) ask them if they had seen the guy. I never went door to door into peoples' homes looking for a suspect. Each knock on the door was a request, not a demand. I've had citizens tell me to F*** off when I knocked on their door during a manhunt. I thanked them and wished them well, and left.

Either there is a 4th Amendment, or there isn't. I wonder if any citizens refused police entry into their homes during the Boston event and, if they did, what the police response was. I bet it wasn't good.

60 posted on 04/22/2013 7:17:02 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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