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Judge: Obama administration canít refuse to arrest illegal immigrants
The Washington Times ^ | 4/24/2013 | Stephan Dinan

Posted on 04/24/2013 2:59:29 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Jim Robinson

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority.

18 USC Sec. 2383

Sec. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, Sec. 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

Defining Insurrection against the AUTHORITY of the United States is not that hard. Insurrection need not be force. By refusing to enforce the Laws of the United States, the President of the United States, through the use of the power that inherently exists in the Executive Branch of our government, is committing an insurrection against the laws which were established under our constitution and represent the lawful authority of this nation.

81 posted on 04/25/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by dude911 (Half stepping is when you don't want to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the Truth.)
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To: markomalley

The irony is that if Obama pushes the issue and gives an executive order ignoring immigration laws, there are plenty of Republicans who will be on his side, whether they admit it or not. Marco Rubio would be foremost among them, with John McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham not far behind.

82 posted on 04/25/2013 12:08:47 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: markomalley
likely violating the law ..

No, he's doing one wose: He's committing treason, flat out treason which is grounds for impeachment. He is willingly and knowingly putting the lives of the American people at risk. That is treason. In this country we have this thing called criminal records which protect the American people from killers, rapists, you name it... Illegals bypass all that.

83 posted on 04/25/2013 3:53:57 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: ought-six

Napolitano has misdirected her underlings to ignore laws enacted by congress and approved by the executive branch.

She certainly is both insolent to the senator and contemptuous of the law.

84 posted on 04/25/2013 8:02:03 PM PDT by mbj
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

And there it is. No one is legal, right? Except...

85 posted on 04/27/2013 11:40:57 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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My point is that, because of business interests, the US has had wide open borders with Mexico for decades.

And unlike other waves of immigrants, that all arrived in a short period of time and went through the normal three-generation integration, Mexicans went back and forth, some arriving for good and never going back and integrating; some going back and forth, maintaining family in both countries; and some who never wanted to become Americans, just wanting to earn money here for a while to send back to their family before going home.

Thus we had all three generations at the same time: “old world”, “neither American nor old world” (usually the most troublesome generation), and “fully integrated”, keeping only cultural vestiges of the old country, like silly hyphenated ethnic descriptions. But also a fourth type not found in other immigrations: temporary foreign workers.

It made the entire idea of immigration totally muddy and confused. A great example is Cesar Chavez and his United Farm Workers Union, who were all Mexican-American citizens and bitterly opposed to illegal alien Mexican workers, getting into riotous fights with them. Zero “Mexican solidarity” there. But the farmers went to lengths to get illegals, because they were a lot cheaper.

One of the great untold stories about Mexicans entering the US is how many businesses lobbied so intensely to permit it and continue it.

Adding to that, the “internationalist” interests also wanted extensive Mexican integration, which peaked when former Coca-Cola executive, Mexican president Vincente Fox, joined with W. Bush to create the Pan Puebla Panama. The concept was to depopulate southern Mexico, sending the people who lived there north to the US, then turning it into a giant regional transportation hub for shipping, rail, and air cargo transport, for the Americas.

The US part of the PPP was the north south transport corridor, dividing the US in half in the middle, with a giant highway from Mexico to Canada and enormous rail corridors on both the West and East Coasts parallel to it. The first part of the central highway was to begin with the Trans-Texas corridor that pretty much blew up because the Texans wanted nothing to do with it and refused to cooperate.

Eventually, W. Bush hoped this would result in an “American Union”, of all the Americas, modeled after the European Union. But all that came of it was a quintupling of the number of illegal Mexican aliens crossing the border into the US.

Because conservatives have for so long been so staunchly opposed to illegal aliens in the US, W. Bush and all the interests backing him tried to keep it as low key as possible. But Bush got about everything he wanted to bring the plan to fruition. Relaxed rules about eminent domain, presidential waivers to infrastructure construction projects, a national internal transportation police structure, the TSA, as part of the creepily named DHS, etc.

And all the demands to control illegal immigrations were met with strongest support from those most *opposed* to a closed border; whose efforts were to sabotage immigration control from within, to make it impossible.

In light of all this, oddly enough, the Mexicans, legal and illegal, were just pawns in the game. But to a great extent they adapted and overcame, at least somewhat, but America is left with them as detritus: What do you do with a people, many of whom are legal, but many of whom are illegal, who were brought here to exploit, and are now stuck in legal limbo?

86 posted on 04/28/2013 7:21:38 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at
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