Skip to comments.Judge: Obama administration canít refuse to arrest illegal immigrants
Posted on 04/24/2013 2:59:29 PM PDT by markomalley
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He’ll just ignore it like he does all other judges’ orders.
“Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said she believes she and other political officials have the authority to tell law enforcement agents which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore.”
There is no clearer evidence that the current government is despotic. Nappy needs to be removed.
This bunch of crooks has refused to arrest criminal aliens so they could brag about the falling rate of interdictions. Disgraceful.
Bamster got a good chuckle out of this, I’m sure. The Boy King knows that he’s untouchable.
If only you were one of Holder’s People you’d be taken care of. But, you sound like a cracker, so get back in your place and be quiet!
I am so humbled! NOT!
I kiss no one’s ass. Not now, not in the past and not in the future!
Be QUIET! *she says loudly* Why the Eff should I be quiet?
Good grief; I was being sarcastic.
Do you know where this will leave the 99.5% approved DACA applicants?
LOL! So was I!
Unless it goes to the Supremes law breaker 0bama couldn’t give a crap.
I have always distrusted that program as setting them up for disaster. I know some illegals who were raised in the US since infancy and are thoroughly integrated, and I warned them that this could not be trusted, that the current government is as unethical and treacherous as it comes, and with all the information they were providing it would be a breeze to scoop them up in their hundreds of thousands.
None of them believed me, however. The hope to be able to live without constant fear of arrest was too great.
They are really caught between a rock and a hard place, as they have no way to establish Mexican identity, no papers, no family or connections in Mexico, and at least three or four of them have no memory of Mexico at all. It is, in all respects, a foreign country to them.
He is il Douche.
"A thousand cuts" is another.
Finally a voice of sanity in that madhouse!
This will be largely ignored by the regime, just like those unconstitutional recess appointments nobama made.
The man feels he is all powerful, nothing can stop him and he can ride roughshod over the Rule of Law as it suits him.
This cannot continue.
I do not understand why so many on this site get excited about news like this. They will just ignore the judge and continue to do as they please. Why? They know there is no one in the Republican Party that will utter a word in protest, and if 1 Republican happened to do so they would unleash the press on them.
Now go after all our outlaw mayors and governors.
>>I cant figure out what took so long for a federal judge to come forward and say this, its the law.<<
This was Boners job to say that Zero doesn’t have the authority to change the will of Congress. ICE should not have had to go to Court.
Wake up House of Reps GOP! Obama took your Constitutional powers and this Judge just gave you a huge push to stop it.
“A federal judge said this week that the Obama administration is likely violating the law”
Hahaha. Likely violating the law...
Whether the Federal employees in black robes think their appointing master is violating the law or not he’s certainty ignoring the law.
Disaster? I believe you know more true illegals, than anyone on this forum. Treachery is the fine art, of humble dissuasion. Dissonance echo’s hollow, pal. Know much about sonar?
And there it is. Great shot!
:: will he issue a contempt of court citation and arrest warrant ::
Only problem with that is that such vehicles would be executed by the executive branch (Holder).
First one in a LONG time.
Ya think? Arizona is about 33% Hispanic, almost entirely Mexican. About 14% of the state are foreign born, legal and illegal. Guess what nationality? All but a tiny number were born in Mexico.
If you see someone who looks Mexican, if you know them as a friend or somebody you do business with, and they trust you, they may tell you about the status of members of their family. Surprisingly few families in Arizona are all legal or all illegal. More like (this is a real case, but I’m not entirely clear on all the details, but this is mostly accurate):
“Grandmother is legal, but she doesn’t speak any English. Grandfather was illegal, but died here 20 years ago, both of their sons were born American, but one married a Mexican illegal. Two of their kids were born here, and two in Mexico. The two who are illegal were raised here and have never been to Mexico, and aren’t very good with Spanish so have a hard time talking to Grandmother. We used to have a cousin in Mexico but they died so we don’t have any relatives left there.”
Other states (all data US census):
Texas, 38% Hispanic, 16% foreign born.
New Mexico, 46% Hispanic, 10% foreign born.
California, 38% Hispanic, 27% foreign born.
Surprisingly there are likely many FReepers who know illegals and do business with them, likely without knowing they are illegals, or have family here who are illegals.
In fact, I have no idea if you are a legal citizen.
Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority.
18 USC Sec. 2383
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
Sec. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, Sec. 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
Defining Insurrection against the AUTHORITY of the United States is not that hard. Insurrection need not be force. By refusing to enforce the Laws of the United States, the President of the United States, through the use of the power that inherently exists in the Executive Branch of our government, is committing an insurrection against the laws which were established under our constitution and represent the lawful authority of this nation.
The irony is that if Obama pushes the issue and gives an executive order ignoring immigration laws, there are plenty of Republicans who will be on his side, whether they admit it or not. Marco Rubio would be foremost among them, with John McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham not far behind.
No, he's doing one wose: He's committing treason, flat out treason which is grounds for impeachment. He is willingly and knowingly putting the lives of the American people at risk. That is treason. In this country we have this thing called criminal records which protect the American people from killers, rapists, you name it... Illegals bypass all that.
Napolitano has misdirected her underlings to ignore laws enacted by congress and approved by the executive branch.
She certainly is both insolent to the senator and contemptuous of the law.
And there it is. No one is legal, right? Except...
My point is that, because of business interests, the US has had wide open borders with Mexico for decades.
And unlike other waves of immigrants, that all arrived in a short period of time and went through the normal three-generation integration, Mexicans went back and forth, some arriving for good and never going back and integrating; some going back and forth, maintaining family in both countries; and some who never wanted to become Americans, just wanting to earn money here for a while to send back to their family before going home.
Thus we had all three generations at the same time: “old world”, “neither American nor old world” (usually the most troublesome generation), and “fully integrated”, keeping only cultural vestiges of the old country, like silly hyphenated ethnic descriptions. But also a fourth type not found in other immigrations: temporary foreign workers.
It made the entire idea of immigration totally muddy and confused. A great example is Cesar Chavez and his United Farm Workers Union, who were all Mexican-American citizens and bitterly opposed to illegal alien Mexican workers, getting into riotous fights with them. Zero “Mexican solidarity” there. But the farmers went to lengths to get illegals, because they were a lot cheaper.
One of the great untold stories about Mexicans entering the US is how many businesses lobbied so intensely to permit it and continue it.
Adding to that, the “internationalist” interests also wanted extensive Mexican integration, which peaked when former Coca-Cola executive, Mexican president Vincente Fox, joined with W. Bush to create the Pan Puebla Panama. The concept was to depopulate southern Mexico, sending the people who lived there north to the US, then turning it into a giant regional transportation hub for shipping, rail, and air cargo transport, for the Americas.
The US part of the PPP was the north south transport corridor, dividing the US in half in the middle, with a giant highway from Mexico to Canada and enormous rail corridors on both the West and East Coasts parallel to it. The first part of the central highway was to begin with the Trans-Texas corridor that pretty much blew up because the Texans wanted nothing to do with it and refused to cooperate.
Eventually, W. Bush hoped this would result in an “American Union”, of all the Americas, modeled after the European Union. But all that came of it was a quintupling of the number of illegal Mexican aliens crossing the border into the US.
Because conservatives have for so long been so staunchly opposed to illegal aliens in the US, W. Bush and all the interests backing him tried to keep it as low key as possible. But Bush got about everything he wanted to bring the plan to fruition. Relaxed rules about eminent domain, presidential waivers to infrastructure construction projects, a national internal transportation police structure, the TSA, as part of the creepily named DHS, etc.
And all the demands to control illegal immigrations were met with strongest support from those most *opposed* to a closed border; whose efforts were to sabotage immigration control from within, to make it impossible.
In light of all this, oddly enough, the Mexicans, legal and illegal, were just pawns in the game. But to a great extent they adapted and overcame, at least somewhat, but America is left with them as detritus: What do you do with a people, many of whom are legal, but many of whom are illegal, who were brought here to exploit, and are now stuck in legal limbo?