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Judge: Obama administration canít refuse to arrest illegal immigrants
The Washington Times ^ | 4/24/2013 | Stephan Dinan

Posted on 04/24/2013 2:59:29 PM PDT by markomalley

A federal judge said this week that the Obama administration is likely violating the law by telling immigration agents and officers not to arrest illegal immigrants they deem low priority, in a case that could upend President Obama’s enforcement policy.

For the last several years the administration has said it will no longer arrest most illegal immigrants, arguing it wants to focus only on those with serious criminal records or gang ties. The Homeland Security department said it was using “prosecutorial discretion.”

Immigration agents and officers sued, saying federal law requires them to make the arrests, but the Obama administration would discipline them if they complied with the law.

Federal Judge Reed O'Connor said in a court order Tuesday that Congress, not the president, sets priority for arresting illegal immigrants, and said the law requires them to be put in deportation proceedings.

“The court finds that DHS does not have discretion to refuse to initiate removal proceedings,” Judge O'Connor wrote.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
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To: markomalley

He’ll just ignore it like he does all other judges’ orders.


51 posted on 04/24/2013 4:56:21 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Repeal The 17th

“Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said she believes she and other political officials have the authority to tell law enforcement agents which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore.”

There is no clearer evidence that the current government is despotic. Nappy needs to be removed.


52 posted on 04/24/2013 4:56:45 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: markomalley

This bunch of crooks has refused to arrest criminal aliens so they could brag about the falling rate of interdictions. Disgraceful.


53 posted on 04/24/2013 4:59:58 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: markomalley

Bamster got a good chuckle out of this, I’m sure. The Boy King knows that he’s untouchable.


54 posted on 04/24/2013 5:02:19 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Monkey Face

If only you were one of Holder’s People you’d be taken care of. But, you sound like a cracker, so get back in your place and be quiet!


55 posted on 04/24/2013 5:02:28 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

I am so humbled! NOT!

I kiss no one’s ass. Not now, not in the past and not in the future!

Be QUIET! *she says loudly* Why the Eff should I be quiet?


56 posted on 04/24/2013 5:06:25 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( The good outnumber the evil ones, and we always will.)
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57 posted on 04/24/2013 5:07:16 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Monkey Face

Good grief; I was being sarcastic.


58 posted on 04/24/2013 5:10:55 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Do you know where this will leave the 99.5% approved DACA applicants?


59 posted on 04/24/2013 5:11:05 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: ought-six

LOL! So was I!


60 posted on 04/24/2013 5:17:20 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( The good outnumber the evil ones, and we always will.)
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To: markomalley

Unless it goes to the Supremes law breaker 0bama couldn’t give a crap.


61 posted on 04/24/2013 5:52:43 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: magna carta

I have always distrusted that program as setting them up for disaster. I know some illegals who were raised in the US since infancy and are thoroughly integrated, and I warned them that this could not be trusted, that the current government is as unethical and treacherous as it comes, and with all the information they were providing it would be a breeze to scoop them up in their hundreds of thousands.

None of them believed me, however. The hope to be able to live without constant fear of arrest was too great.

They are really caught between a rock and a hard place, as they have no way to establish Mexican identity, no papers, no family or connections in Mexico, and at least three or four of them have no memory of Mexico at all. It is, in all respects, a foreign country to them.


62 posted on 04/24/2013 6:08:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: markomalley
Ha. Obamugabe will not be stopped by a judge or a court.

He is il Douche.

63 posted on 04/24/2013 6:14:25 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: lonevoice

Outstanding!


64 posted on 04/24/2013 6:32:35 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Kevmo
Nice analogy.

"A thousand cuts" is another.

65 posted on 04/24/2013 7:03:57 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: markomalley

Finally a voice of sanity in that madhouse!


66 posted on 04/24/2013 7:17:36 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: markomalley

This will be largely ignored by the regime, just like those unconstitutional recess appointments nobama made.

The man feels he is all powerful, nothing can stop him and he can ride roughshod over the Rule of Law as it suits him.

This cannot continue.


67 posted on 04/24/2013 7:18:19 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: markomalley

I do not understand why so many on this site get excited about news like this. They will just ignore the judge and continue to do as they please. Why? They know there is no one in the Republican Party that will utter a word in protest, and if 1 Republican happened to do so they would unleash the press on them.


68 posted on 04/24/2013 7:41:51 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: markomalley

Now go after all our outlaw mayors and governors.


69 posted on 04/24/2013 7:48:22 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: jazusamo

>>I can’t figure out what took so long for a federal judge to come forward and say this, it’s the law.<<

This was Boners job to say that Zero doesn’t have the authority to change the will of Congress. ICE should not have had to go to Court.


70 posted on 04/24/2013 8:24:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Principled

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-naked-man-mystery-role-in-boston-2013-4


71 posted on 04/24/2013 8:32:58 PM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: Jim Robinson

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-naked-man-mystery-role-in-boston-2013-4


72 posted on 04/24/2013 8:33:12 PM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: markomalley

Wake up House of Reps GOP! Obama took your Constitutional powers and this Judge just gave you a huge push to stop it.


73 posted on 04/24/2013 9:14:17 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: markomalley

“A federal judge said this week that the Obama administration is likely violating the law”

Hahaha. Likely violating the law...

Whether the Federal employees in black robes think their appointing master is violating the law or not he’s certainty ignoring the law.


74 posted on 04/24/2013 9:35:05 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Disaster? I believe you know more true illegals, than anyone on this forum. Treachery is the fine art, of humble dissuasion. Dissonance echo’s hollow, pal. Know much about sonar?


75 posted on 04/24/2013 11:34:43 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: SoFloFreeper

And there it is. Great shot!


76 posted on 04/24/2013 11:36:48 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Blood of Tyrants

:: will he issue a contempt of court citation and arrest warrant ::

Only problem with that is that such vehicles would be executed by the executive branch (Holder).


77 posted on 04/25/2013 5:49:07 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: LUV W
Finally a voice of sanity in that madhouse!

First one in a LONG time.

78 posted on 04/25/2013 5:58:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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79 posted on 04/25/2013 7:27:10 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RedHeeler

Ya think? Arizona is about 33% Hispanic, almost entirely Mexican. About 14% of the state are foreign born, legal and illegal. Guess what nationality? All but a tiny number were born in Mexico.

If you see someone who looks Mexican, if you know them as a friend or somebody you do business with, and they trust you, they may tell you about the status of members of their family. Surprisingly few families in Arizona are all legal or all illegal. More like (this is a real case, but I’m not entirely clear on all the details, but this is mostly accurate):

“Grandmother is legal, but she doesn’t speak any English. Grandfather was illegal, but died here 20 years ago, both of their sons were born American, but one married a Mexican illegal. Two of their kids were born here, and two in Mexico. The two who are illegal were raised here and have never been to Mexico, and aren’t very good with Spanish so have a hard time talking to Grandmother. We used to have a cousin in Mexico but they died so we don’t have any relatives left there.”

Other states (all data US census):

Texas, 38% Hispanic, 16% foreign born.
New Mexico, 46% Hispanic, 10% foreign born.
California, 38% Hispanic, 27% foreign born.

Surprisingly there are likely many FReepers who know illegals and do business with them, likely without knowing they are illegals, or have family here who are illegals.

In fact, I have no idea if you are a legal citizen.


80 posted on 04/25/2013 7:32:16 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority.

18 USC Sec. 2383
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

-HEAD-
Sec. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection

-STATUTE-
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

-SOURCE-
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, Sec. 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

Defining Insurrection against the AUTHORITY of the United States is not that hard. Insurrection need not be force. By refusing to enforce the Laws of the United States, the President of the United States, through the use of the power that inherently exists in the Executive Branch of our government, is committing an insurrection against the laws which were established under our constitution and represent the lawful authority of this nation.


81 posted on 04/25/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by dude911 (Half stepping is when you don't want to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the Truth.)
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To: markomalley

The irony is that if Obama pushes the issue and gives an executive order ignoring immigration laws, there are plenty of Republicans who will be on his side, whether they admit it or not. Marco Rubio would be foremost among them, with John McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham not far behind.


82 posted on 04/25/2013 12:08:47 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: markomalley
likely violating the law ..

No, he's doing one wose: He's committing treason, flat out treason which is grounds for impeachment. He is willingly and knowingly putting the lives of the American people at risk. That is treason. In this country we have this thing called criminal records which protect the American people from killers, rapists, you name it... Illegals bypass all that.

83 posted on 04/25/2013 3:53:57 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: ought-six

Napolitano has misdirected her underlings to ignore laws enacted by congress and approved by the executive branch.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011435/posts

She certainly is both insolent to the senator and contemptuous of the law.


84 posted on 04/25/2013 8:02:03 PM PDT by mbj
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

And there it is. No one is legal, right? Except...


85 posted on 04/27/2013 11:40:57 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

My point is that, because of business interests, the US has had wide open borders with Mexico for decades.

And unlike other waves of immigrants, that all arrived in a short period of time and went through the normal three-generation integration, Mexicans went back and forth, some arriving for good and never going back and integrating; some going back and forth, maintaining family in both countries; and some who never wanted to become Americans, just wanting to earn money here for a while to send back to their family before going home.

Thus we had all three generations at the same time: “old world”, “neither American nor old world” (usually the most troublesome generation), and “fully integrated”, keeping only cultural vestiges of the old country, like silly hyphenated ethnic descriptions. But also a fourth type not found in other immigrations: temporary foreign workers.

It made the entire idea of immigration totally muddy and confused. A great example is Cesar Chavez and his United Farm Workers Union, who were all Mexican-American citizens and bitterly opposed to illegal alien Mexican workers, getting into riotous fights with them. Zero “Mexican solidarity” there. But the farmers went to lengths to get illegals, because they were a lot cheaper.

One of the great untold stories about Mexicans entering the US is how many businesses lobbied so intensely to permit it and continue it.

Adding to that, the “internationalist” interests also wanted extensive Mexican integration, which peaked when former Coca-Cola executive, Mexican president Vincente Fox, joined with W. Bush to create the Pan Puebla Panama. The concept was to depopulate southern Mexico, sending the people who lived there north to the US, then turning it into a giant regional transportation hub for shipping, rail, and air cargo transport, for the Americas.

The US part of the PPP was the north south transport corridor, dividing the US in half in the middle, with a giant highway from Mexico to Canada and enormous rail corridors on both the West and East Coasts parallel to it. The first part of the central highway was to begin with the Trans-Texas corridor that pretty much blew up because the Texans wanted nothing to do with it and refused to cooperate.

Eventually, W. Bush hoped this would result in an “American Union”, of all the Americas, modeled after the European Union. But all that came of it was a quintupling of the number of illegal Mexican aliens crossing the border into the US.

Because conservatives have for so long been so staunchly opposed to illegal aliens in the US, W. Bush and all the interests backing him tried to keep it as low key as possible. But Bush got about everything he wanted to bring the plan to fruition. Relaxed rules about eminent domain, presidential waivers to infrastructure construction projects, a national internal transportation police structure, the TSA, as part of the creepily named DHS, etc.

And all the demands to control illegal immigrations were met with strongest support from those most *opposed* to a closed border; whose efforts were to sabotage immigration control from within, to make it impossible.

In light of all this, oddly enough, the Mexicans, legal and illegal, were just pawns in the game. But to a great extent they adapted and overcame, at least somewhat, but America is left with them as detritus: What do you do with a people, many of whom are legal, but many of whom are illegal, who were brought here to exploit, and are now stuck in legal limbo?


86 posted on 04/28/2013 7:21:38 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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