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Muslim preacher charged with conspiring to set up a jihad terror training camp in Oregon
Jihad watch ^ | April 28, 2013 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 04/29/2013 8:30:20 AM PDT by AuntB

And the defense attorneys want Osama bin Laden's name excluded from the proceedings, even though Mustafa Kamel Mustafa was an al-Qaeda operative. How did a preacher of Islam get the crazy idea that Islam mandated killing unbelievers? Doesn't he know it's a peaceful religion, and that only greasy Islamophobes think otherwise?

"US defends arrest of Egyptian Islamic preacher, says bin Laden’s name belongs in NY trial," from the Associated Press, April 28:

NEW YORK — Osama bin Laden’s name should not be banned from the terrorism trial of an Egyptian Islamic preacher despite claims by defense lawyers that it would be prejudicial toward their client, the government has told a federal judge.

Federal prosecutors said in court papers filed Friday in U.S. District Court that references to the deceased founder of al-Qaida will not be prejudicial or inflammatory and are important to explaining the case against Mustafa Kamel Mustafa to the jury.

They noted that Mustafa is charged with conspiring to provide or providing material support to al-Qaida and said the fact that bin Laden was the leader of the group at the time “is plainly relevant.”

Mustafa was extradited to the U.S. from Great Britain in October to face charges that he conspired with Seattle men to set up a terrorist training camp at a ranch in Bly, Ore.

The government plans to prove the camp, which never opened, was to be used for training in military tactics, weapons, assassinations, hand-to-hand combat and explosives.

Mustafa also is charged with helping to abduct two American tourists and 14 other people in Yemen in 1998. He has pleaded not guilty. The trial is scheduled for March.

In papers filed earlier this month, defense lawyers asked the trial judge to exclude bin Laden’s name, saying it would be “irrelevant and inflammatory” to Mustafa.

“Bin Laden’s leadership of al-Qaida is irrelevant to the charges, and its inclusion in the indictment is highly prejudicial to Mr. Mustafa,” the lawyers said. “The danger of unfair prejudice is overwhelming in this case, because of the toxic impact the mere mention of Osama bin Laden would likely have on a jury.”

But prosecutors offered multiple reasons why the mention of bin Laden was important. They noted that one of two men Mustafa is accused of sending from London to the United States to help establish the Oregon training camp had sent a letter to bin Laden saying in part: “We love you here” and “I ask God to help you here, and support you to fulfill His desire.”

The government said the letter would support its argument that the efforts to create the training camp were carried out in support of al-Qaida.

“Even though the letter does not make mention of al-Qaida by name, because bin Laden was the leader of al-Qaida, such expressions of loyalty to bin Laden are indistinguishable from expressions of loyalty to al-Qaida,” it said....


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: importingterror; jihadcamp; mustafa; obl; oregon; osamabinladen; sanctuarystate
Oregon is one of 4 officially recognized 'sanctuary states' for aliens, legal and Illegal. Today our misguided, liberal legislature is voting in licenses for illegal aliens. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3012273/posts

I was looking at property around Bly when this camp was going on and was told to stay clear of it, because there was lots of gunfire going on. On the way back to Medford, we followed a car with diplomatic license plates and men with headdresses. They were noticable because they drove so slowly holding up traffic for miles down the mountain road.

1 posted on 04/29/2013 8:30:20 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

This imam is now preacher? When did he convert?


2 posted on 04/29/2013 8:36:03 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: AuntB

Portland has been islamicized for years!


3 posted on 04/29/2013 8:36:10 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: AuntB

Must be Amish.....

The MSM keeps telling me my neighborhood Muslim Brethren are clean as the driven snow.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 8:39:33 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: AuntB

More than a few county commissioners in Oregon would welcome such a camp, as opposed to logging, mining and industrial facilities that pay a decent family wage. They would greet with open arms the long-bearded, draped, dark figures, who would blend well into the shifting ranks of the homeless on the streets and wooded areas of certain towns along the coast. They would be showered with free medical benefits and trail cards.


5 posted on 04/29/2013 8:44:49 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: AuntB

this would be just one of 35 more jihad/muslim camps all over the usa


6 posted on 04/29/2013 8:46:28 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: AuntB

[[Oregon is one of 4 officially recognized ‘sanctuary states’ for aliens, legal and Illegal.]]

These woudl be the equivilent of France’s NO GO ZONES- or ‘sensitivity zones’ in which police are forbidden to carry out the Nation’s law within those areas France has over 750 ‘No Go Zones’ where their police are too afraid to step foot for fear of both beign murdered and of startign a ‘race war’ and beign seen as racists and islamophobes- We’re QUICKLY following France’s pattern of cowardice i nregards to settign up our own NO GO ZONES where polcie are undoubtably beign told to stand down when it comes to enforcing American law

Which brings us to why our govenrment wants to dissarm law abidign civilians (meaning all civilians EXCEPT Muslims and gang members)


7 posted on 04/29/2013 8:51:50 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CMB_polarization

“More than a few county commissioners in Oregon would welcome such a camp, as opposed to logging, mining and industrial facilities that pay a decent family wage. They would greet with open arms the long-bearded, draped, dark figures, who would blend well into the shifting ranks of the homeless on the streets and wooded areas of certain towns along the coast. They would be showered with free medical benefits and trail cards.”

I wish you were wrong about that!


8 posted on 04/29/2013 8:52:03 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

[[The MSM keeps telling me my neighborhood Muslim Brethren are clean as the driven snow]]

They are as clean as the exploding snow


9 posted on 04/29/2013 8:52:30 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: AuntB

Not even the terrorists want to start a business in California!


10 posted on 04/29/2013 8:53:47 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: MestaMachine

I expect them to move their spring training to Arizona like everybody else...


11 posted on 04/29/2013 8:55:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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HEY!!! OREGON!!! THIS is the way it’s supposed to be done!

VICTORY: Georgia Gov. Signs Expansion of Illegal Alien Crackdown (SB160)

By John Hill on April 26, 2013

Way to go, Peach State!

Gov. Nathan Deal yesterday signed S.B. 160 – a tough expansion of Georgia’s H.B. 87, the Arizona-style law cracking down on illegal aliens, which passed in 2011.

The La Raza lobby was left stunned and upset, believing Deal would bend to the prevailing GOP pressure for immigration appeasement in Washington, and veto it. They were sadly mistaken.

Passed in the final hours of the General Assembly’s 40-day session – and despite fierce lobbying against it by ethnic intimidation groups, big business interests, and the ACLU – Senate Bill 160 was created to “fix” problems in licensing delays related to the old bill, but was later amended to add the following strong anti-illegal provisions, all now law:

Bans illegal aliens from getting state driver’s licenses.

Blocks illegal aliens from getting state, grants, public housing and retirement benefits.

Prevents people from using foreign passports to obtain public benefits, unless those passports include records indicating they are in the country legally.

Mandatory participation in E-Verify for contractors doing business with city, county and state government agencies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3013655/posts


12 posted on 04/29/2013 9:00:44 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

[[They would greet with open arms the long-bearded, draped, dark figures, who would blend well into the shifting ranks of the homeless on the streets and wooded areas of certain towns along the coast. ]]

Well of course, because they bring so much to an area i nterms of economy and community spirit as opposed to evil loggers, evil big oil, evil mining companies which employ thousands of folks, and help many many communities stay togehter when there’s really no reason to remain in an area- They help keep local buisnesses thriving and healthy because they employ so many peopel that need goods-

Muslims o nthe other hand bring ..... well..... lemme think.... Well, They do buy a lot of ammo, so I guess they keep sportign stores thriving- a large number of them grow and eat their own food so thwey don’t have to pester store owners with lots of purchases, they avoid contact with locals for hterm ost part so they aren’t all icky community minded and such in lots of areas- well i guess that’s it-

(And no- not all muslism are liek htis- however a lot are, and it only takes just a couple of violent muslim jihadists to shut down an entire city and cause massive damage as we saw rwecently, and beign htat islam is based on violent tenants many tend to gravitate to the violence


13 posted on 04/29/2013 9:01:18 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: AuntB

Rajneeshpuram?


14 posted on 04/29/2013 9:09:09 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: showme_the_Glory

“Rajneeshpuram?”

Yes, Oregon put up with that mess for too long too! Reminds me....they gave the USA it’s first Islamic biological attack.


15 posted on 04/29/2013 9:13:43 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Mustafa is charged with conspiring to provide or providing material support to al-Qaida

Is this still a crime? Uncle Scam is this very day using American taxpayer money to pay Al-CIA-duh foreign mercenaries in Syria to kill Christians and violently overthrow the Syrian government.

16 posted on 04/29/2013 10:11:44 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: null and void

Read about another one of these terrorist training camps in Hawthorne NY. This morning.They have an entire govt. System running it by Sharia law,they call the place Islamberg


17 posted on 04/29/2013 11:35:49 AM PDT by ballplayer
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