Skip to comments.George Zimmerman waives right to pretrial immunity hearing
Posted on 04/30/2013 1:53:24 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
George Zimmerman said under oath on Tuesday that he waives pretrial immunity hearing freely, voluntarily, without promise or threats, as he was questioned by Judge Debra S. Nelson about the issue.
Nelson told Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara that she had wanted to question Zimmerman to make sure he can't later claim ineffective assistance. O'Mara attempted to get the judge to allow him to submit an affidavit instead of questioning Zimmerman in court, but Nelson rejected it.
Nelson asked, "Mr. Zimmerman do you freely waive your right to a pre-trial immunity hearing?" Zimmerman responded, "yes." Zimmerman responded yes to all of Nelson's questions about waiving a pretrial immunity hearing freely, voluntarily, without promise or threats.
Prosecutors had wanted Nelson to conduct a full inquiry of Zimmerman to make sure he understood he would not have the haring ahead of his second-degree murder trial in June.
Zimmermans attorneys had been coy on the matter, announcing they would not use the two weeks that were set aside for the hearing in April, suggesting they may ask the judge to conduct the hearing during the trial, but didn't commit to a waiver of a pretrial hearing nor a process merged into the trial.
O'Mara told Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to occur before Zimmerman's trial and could be requested after prosecutors presented their case..........
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Guy doesn’t trust the judge to do the right thing, which is probably a smart course fo action.
or rather #2
thanks to the racist “justice” department this guy will probably be harassed all his life so as to satisfy a racist grudge harbored by the “justice” department and its boss.
They’re gonna lynch this guy...he’s a white-Hispanic you know.
The case for the state will come down to this:
They are ginning up an array of “experts” who with all their hocus pocus techy equipment will testify, contrary to the other witnesses, that the scream came from Martin not Zimmerman.
In other news we find out in court today that the DeeDee Letter was written with the help of a “friend” of DeeDee’s whose last name she doesn’t know.
And the cell pings from that night show that Martin was not just between the 7 Eleven and the condominiums but north and west of that area and quite a distance away.
“the DeeDee Letter was written with the help of a friend of DeeDees whose last name she doesnt know.”
Whoa Nelly. I saw references to this on CTH and thought it was “humor”. Where did this info emerge from? Did Witness 8 admit this in deposition, and actually pretend not to know “Francine’s” last name? [Wild speculation: Francine is someone Sybrina knows through HUD, and sent her to help DeeDee compose her thoughts. That’s why W8 signed the letter with “Thanks”].
Another revelation was that one of the distinctively-named Fulton step-brothers (Ronvarias?) has stated that Witness 8 attended the funeral and met “formally” with the TM family. W8 does connect some dots.
On the Immunity Hearing — Judge Nelson is probably wetting herself with joy to be off the hook. At first I was amazed at the waiver, since the judge went to such pains to foreclose future efforts on this. But given all the signals this judge has telegraphed, is there a chance in hell that she would ever rule in GZ’s favor? Absent a video of the entire episode, with TM screaming “I am going to lure, attack, and kill me a white Hispanic; there’s one now”, it’s just never going to be enough for her. But at trial, the State has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. Bluster and arm waving aren’t evidence, so they have nothing that isn’t highly dubious. Which is why you are 100% right about the “scream” experts.
It seems that Zimmerman's attroney has raised a point as to the law NOT stating when the hearing must be held. A move to have the hearing after the prosecution puts on its case and a denial by the judge may present an appealable issue. A Defendant traditionally had a number of potentially dispositive motions to make after the prosecution rested its case. Why not this Motion as well?
In “rule of law” America that would seem possible and appropriate. In Orwellian Hell America, all bets are off.
I suspect that the State desperately wanted GZ to go for an Immunity Hearing and win it, and the judge just as desperately wanted to avoid the responsibility it would put on her. She is not likely to accept the saddle easily and passing the buck to an appellate court might sound good to her.
You’re probably right. The DeeDee Letter is such hogwash. Supposedly Sybrina treasured it so much that she put it away in her Bible and forgot about it because it meant so much to her. The same Sybrina who sat next to W8 at Bernie’s deposition and cried the whole time. These people are beyond disgusting.