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Green Beret who vanished in Vietnam War still alive?
Yahoo News ^ | 04/30/13 | Mike Krumboltz

Posted on 04/30/2013 2:41:40 PM PDT by AtlasStalled

"Unclaimed," a new documentary premiering at Toronto's Hot Docs film festival on Tuesday night, tells the story of Special Forces Green Beret Master Sgt. John Hartley Robertson, who was shot down over Laos in 1968 and was long presumed dead.

The documentary actually follows fellow Vietnam vet Tom Faunce, who heard about Robertson's whereabouts while on a humanitarian mission and wants to find him. Faunce does track down someone claiming to be Robertson in a remote village in south-central Vietnam.

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Whether or not the man is indeed Robertson remains unproved. But, as the Toronto Star puts it, the film "makes a compelling case."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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To: LibWhacker

I don’t know about totally losing the ability to speak English, but your language skills do degrade if you don’t use them.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 3:12:21 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Cyman

Wasn’t it, “Me rove you rong time.”


22 posted on 04/30/2013 3:13:29 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
When I was a kid in the 50s/60s...

Interesting. Others in this thread have made similar comments, but I think all said they were removed from their native environment as children. Robertson was 28 when he disappeared. Don't know whether that makes a difference or not...???

23 posted on 04/30/2013 3:14:07 PM PDT by LibWhacker (.)
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To: AtlasStalled
This has already been exploded. Apparently this fellow is a French national who has run this scam before. He has simply conned two credulous filmmakers who wanted very badly to believe him because they want Americans to "lose their minds" over the idea that an MIA was left behind.

U.S.report on "Robertson" claimants

24 posted on 04/30/2013 3:18:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: txhurl

All I have to do is see Si and I start laughing. :-)


25 posted on 04/30/2013 3:21:31 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: LibWhacker

I call BS. It has been 12 years since I took German in High School and yet I still remember some of it. That was only 6 months of light lessons. A native language would be so etched into your brain that you would remember most if not all of it.


26 posted on 04/30/2013 3:22:02 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Jonty30

Hmmm... I’ve known “shut-ins” whose isolation prevents them from talking to other people much and who have actually complained of such... They can’t remember certain words and when talking often seem to cast around for the right word longer than most people their age. I’ve always attributed it to the sort of normal memory degradation people go through plus, perhaps, a little onset dementia... But maybe you guys are onto something here. Wow, you’d think certain things would never leave you, but I guess not! I better join a Bridge club and start going every day — immediately!


27 posted on 04/30/2013 3:30:13 PM PDT by LibWhacker (.)
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To: MissMagnolia

28 posted on 04/30/2013 3:47:17 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: tsowellfan
I don't think it's possible that he forgot English. At the most he may have developed a Vietnamese accent when speaking English.

After a couple years in Quebec, I came home speaking English like a French-Canadian immigrant. You don't lose English; it just gets rusty from disuse.

And now, some 4 decades later, to a Quebecker, I'd sound like an American immigrant speaking really obsolete seventies slang.

Tabarnouche!

29 posted on 04/30/2013 3:59:37 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: AtlasStalled

http://www.macvsog.cc/john_hartly_rob.htm

I have more trust in this than I do a film maker.


30 posted on 04/30/2013 4:01:44 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: BfloGuy
You don't lose English; it just gets rusty from disuse.

Exactly.

31 posted on 04/30/2013 4:03:14 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: kathsua; LibWhacker
"I thought all soldiers were fingerprinted. That’s what they indicate on the old cop shows."

And by '97 or so, we were all swabbed for DNA...

32 posted on 04/30/2013 4:06:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: tsowellfan
I don't think it's possible that he forgot English. At the most he may have developed a Vietnamese accent when speaking English.

If he spent the last forty years far outside the major metropolitan areas, and never had reason to speak or hear English, then yes, he could have lost the facility to actually speak it.

As far as actually forgetting his native tongue entirely, I think that's a stretch.

As to losing ones accent, that's also hard to do, unless a person is immersed in an area where they're the only one around who has that accent. I can remember when I was a kid, that non-native Hispanic folks didn't have as strong of a Spanish accent as they do today. In my observation, that's because there weren't as many native Spanish speakers around to reinforce their native accent.

Today, I know grown Hispanic adults who were raised in this country, who have distinct Spanish accents. You never used to hear that decades ago.

33 posted on 04/30/2013 4:20:11 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MissMagnolia
All I have to do is see Si and I start laughing. :-)

Hey! Jack!

34 posted on 04/30/2013 4:25:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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35 posted on 04/30/2013 4:52:41 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks!


36 posted on 04/30/2013 4:57:05 PM PDT by kenavi ("Beware of rulers, for they befriend only for their own benefit." Gamaliel)
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To: AnAmericanMother
He has simply conned two credulous filmmakers who wanted very badly to believe him because they want Americans to "lose their minds" over the idea that an MIA was left behind

Hello friend, you are a breath of sanity, thanks!

37 posted on 04/30/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Cyman

U numma won GI


38 posted on 04/30/2013 5:05:46 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Windflier
As to losing ones accent, that's also hard to do, unless a person is immersed in an area where they're the only one around who has that accent.

You would think. But here in my northeast US city I saw an American develop a Cambodian accent when speaking English and not because he spoke Khmer at the home of his girlfriend. He knew basic words in Khmer but I spoke much more khmer than he did and had many Cambodian friends. My English accent, however, was not influenced in that way. I think the reason for that was that I had a family (mom, dad and brother) to go home to everyday while he never knew his dad and had little (if any) to do with his mom.

But still, it's hard to believe that an America living in USA could develop such an accent. But he did.

Like the Cambodian immigrants he would not pronounce the "s" at the end of plural nouns - things like that which would be impossible to fake.

39 posted on 04/30/2013 5:07:27 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Windflier
If he spent the last forty years far outside the major metropolitan areas, and never had reason to speak or hear English, then yes, he could have lost the facility to actually speak it.

He would have likely thought in English. He would have had to have been there since the age of 5 years old or younger to forget his English and even at 5 years old there would still be a little left. Much of it depends on his age when he went there.

40 posted on 04/30/2013 5:13:41 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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