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Southern Whites' Shift to the GOP Predates the '60s
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 30, 2013 | Sean Trende

Posted on 05/01/2013 6:32:43 PM PDT by neverdem

I by-and-large agree with the thrust of Jamelle Bouie’s recent American Prospect article, which argues that Republicans badly misapprehend the reason(s) African-Americans generally vote for Democratic candidates. Too many conservatives assert that African-Americans have developed a “false consciousness” and simply need to be shown the error of their ways before they’ll start supporting Republicans. Asking “What’s the matter with black people?” simply isn’t going to get the GOP very far in its minority outreach efforts.

But in the course of this argument, Bouie makes the following statement: “White Southerners jumped ship from Democratic presidential candidates in the 1960s, and this was followed by a similar shift on the congressional level, and eventually, the state legislative level. That the [last] two took time doesn’t discount the first.”

If you polled pundits, you’d probably get 90 percent agreement with this statement. And if you polled political scientists, you’d likely get a majority to sign off on it. That’s maddening, because it’s incorrect.

I’ve written at length on this, both in my book and here, but it is worth revisiting. In truth, the white South began breaking away from the Democrats in the 1920s, as population centers began to develop in what was being called the “New South” (remember, at the beginning of the 20th century, New Orleans was the only thing approximating what we currently think of as a city in the South).

In the 1930s and 1940s, FDR performed worse in the South in every election following his 1932 election. By the mid-1940s, the GOP was winning about a quarter of the Southern vote in presidential elections...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; dixie; fdr; realignment; trends
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To: Texas Fossil
My great grandfather soured on FDR when he saw cattle killed to reduce herds without preserving the meat for consumption. Farmers were paid to kill the livestock and bury it.

It was done to RAISE prices..... during a DEPRESSION! Talk about not being the sharpest tack in the wall.

21 posted on 05/01/2013 11:21:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Yep, they called it “price stabilization”.

Pure crap, when there were many hungry people. Total nonsense. Egghead Nonsense.


22 posted on 05/01/2013 11:23:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

This is where Ayn Rand probably got some of her ideas


23 posted on 05/01/2013 11:24:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Some of my ancestors were literally burned out of AL during Reconstruction for resisting that oppression. 2 paid with their lives.

The rest went GTT, like many others.

Other of my ancestors were already in TX. One was born in TX during the Republic.

You never erase memories like those. Not since that time have we had such a totally corrupt and dishonest Federal Government.

I bristle every time I think about the similarities. Sobering.


24 posted on 05/01/2013 11:27:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: GeronL

Culling the Herds

http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe30s/crops_17.html


25 posted on 05/01/2013 11:29:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I am amazed anyone but the toughest would come here before the invention of air conditioning. Then I remembered we didn’t have an AC before I was about 14.

We did have an ornery swamp cooler though


26 posted on 05/01/2013 11:30:29 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Ayn Rand was visionary, but I am left cold by some of her ideas.

My favorite of her books is:

“Capitalism the Untried Ideal”


27 posted on 05/01/2013 11:32:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I meant that her depiction of the bad guys was dead on accurate. I didn’t like her good guys much more though.


28 posted on 05/01/2013 11:34:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Yes, the Rolling Plains in particular is a harsh environment.

My great grandfather came here in 1889 from Coryell County. Some of the family went back to near Gatesville for 3 years beginning in 1895 because of a terrible drought, like today. They moved back in 1898. We have owned/farmed land here ever since.

I left for 25 years, moved back in 1995. But continued to travel for a living until about 2003.

We have not had cattle for 2 years. Cost of cotton production drove us out of that. We grow, store, clean, and treat wheat for seed. Made 1/2 a crop last season, this one looks very questionable. Double whammy this year, extreme dry winter and 2 late freezes. One of the local crop insurance agents told me the thought only 10% of the planted wheat crops would be harvested.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 11:41:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: GeronL

Yes, she knew the enemies. Absolutely.

She understood how destructive they really are too.


30 posted on 05/01/2013 11:43:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: GeronL

Have enjoyed the visit tonight, but I have a doctors appointment in Abilene tomorrow. Must shut this thing down for now.


31 posted on 05/01/2013 11:44:53 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I should but I might end up sleeping till noon if I don’t....


32 posted on 05/01/2013 11:49:29 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mac_truck

The Northeast and Midwest states were FDR’s weakest areas of support. A good example is Massachusetts where FDR never broke over 53% of the vote. It was the Southern and Western states that gave him huge majorities.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 11:59:59 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (The GOP is the present version of 1940 France and it will only get worse.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m referring to the light skin definition of Caucasian smart pants. Yes I held back @sshat!


34 posted on 05/02/2013 12:23:58 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: neverdem

I reviewed some of the posts and it got me to thinking about
the flip side. On the surface in the post Civil War (apologies
to Southern folks offended by the term) era, the GOP was
associated with the North while the Democrat Party was
more closely associated w/ the South. How did the Dems
gain prominence in the North? What caused Teddy’s cousin
FDR to be a Dem? By the the 1950s & 60s the term ‘Dixiecrat’
referring to Southern Democrats came in to vogue as if they
were a minority within the Dem party. What about that?


35 posted on 05/02/2013 12:34:44 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Texas Fossil
The 3rd term was the final blow for him, according to my father.

Had Roosevelt not run for a third term the likely Democratic nominee would have been Vice President John Nance of Texas, who was no fan the New Deal.

36 posted on 05/02/2013 4:49:26 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: ansel12

Huey Long.


37 posted on 05/02/2013 4:54:49 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: poobear
Yes I held back @sshat!

No you didn't, did I call you a filthy name or something?

38 posted on 05/02/2013 5:08:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: ansel12
"I sure didn’t see that, do you have some quotes?

OK, I will AGAIN put the explicitly racists quote from the article I used : "and there’s no doubt, at least in my mind, that GOP candidates used racialized appeals to try to win over Southern whites."

To iterate, the Democrats have been, and still are, the Party of Slavers. This story gives the excuse, sublimely and explicitly, that the Republicans are the Party of racists; and that is not true!

39 posted on 05/02/2013 5:42:30 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Cowboy Bob
I'm a Honkey or a Cracker...

A "cracker" cracked whips on the slaves.

I'm a Mercan.

40 posted on 05/02/2013 6:08:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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