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The Damning Dozen: Twelve Revelations from the Benghazi Hearings ( Good Intro )
townhall ^ | Guy Benson

Posted on 05/09/2013 12:49:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The President and his Dept. heads, wanted these survivors dead. They were hot-running arms and got caught, by feuding Islamic factions. Who in turn, gave their common enemy, an embarrasment of unfolding proportions. The complicity of Our Goverment with jihad, is full and complete.


41 posted on 05/09/2013 3:10:20 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: what's up

No, it was one of the guys who took him to the hospital.


42 posted on 05/09/2013 3:21:53 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye
Actually, I don't think they know who it was...the person as far as I know was not identified though I remember there was some talk of a doctor at the time.

Regardless, I think it very possible the reason the call was made because they saw that Stevens would not live and so to appear to cooperate would be better at this point since he could not be taken hostage.

43 posted on 05/09/2013 3:26:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Guy Benson is now guest hosting the Hugh Hewitt show. 3-6:00 PDT. He just had on one of the Rep committee members from the hearing. I forget his name - the one from Ohio. I recommend the program.


44 posted on 05/09/2013 3:40:39 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: TigersEye
Hicks says they discussed hostage rescue at the time because the hospital was under Ansar Al Sharia control.

Bolton calls this revelation stunning:

http://nation.foxnews.com/benghazi/2013/05/08/benghazi-whistle-blower-amb-stevens-was-taken-hospital-under-enemy-control

45 posted on 05/09/2013 3:50:42 PM PDT by what's up
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To: TigersEye
Locals later ran ansar al shariah out of the hospital.

But then a while later because security was so bad and there were apparently worse things than ansar al shariah in some local folk's eyes ?anarchy or other groups?, there were people who reportedly regretted that and wanted to let them back in. I didn't follow up so I'm not sure if they were let back in or not.

46 posted on 05/09/2013 3:54:57 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: what's up
Ambassador Chris Stevens was still breathing as video emerges showing Libyans trying to rescue him
Published: Monday, September 17, 2012, 2:20 PM Updated: Monday, September 17, 2012, 10:40 PM

CAIRO — Libyans tried to rescue Ambassador Chris Stevens, cheering "God is great" and rushing him to a hospital after they discovered him still clinging to life inside the U.S. Consulate, according to witnesses and a new video that emerged Monday from last week's attack in the city of Benghazi.

The Libyans who found him expressed frustration that there was no ambulance and no first aid on hand, leaving him to be slung over a man's shoulder to be carried to a car.

"There was not a single ambulance to carry him. Maybe he was handled the wrong way," said Fahd al-Bakoush, a freelance videographer who shot the footage. "They took him to a private car."

Soon after the attack, Libyan civilians roamed freely around the trashed consulate, its walls blacked and furniture burned. Among them were the videographer al-Bakoush, and a photographer and art student he often works with.

They heard a panicked shout, "I stepped over a dead man," and rushed to see what was going on, al-Bakoush said. The body had been found inside a dark room with a locked door accessible only by a window. A group of men pulled him out and realized he was a foreigner and still alive.

He was breathing and his eyelids flickered, al-Bakoush said. "He was alive," he said. "No doubt. His face was blackened and he was like a paralyzed person."

Video taken by al-Bakoush and posted on YouTube shows Stevens being carried out of the room through a window with a raised shutter. "Bring him out, man," someone shouts. "Out of the way, out of the way!"

"Alive, Alive!" come other shouts, then a cheer of "God is great."

The next scene shows Stevens lying on a tile floor, with one man touching his neck to check his pulse. Al-Bakoush said that after that scene, they put Stevens in a private car to rush to the hospital.

The video has been authenticated since Stevens' face is clearly visible and he is wearing the same white t-shirt seen in authenticated photos of him being carried away on another man's shoulders, presumably moments later. The photographer and student who were with al-Bakoush at the scene gave the same account as he did.

"We were happy to see him alive. The youths tried to rescue him. But there was no security, no ambulances, nothing to help," said Ahmed Shams, the 22-year-old arts student.

When they entered the consulate, "there was no one around. There was no fire fighters, no ambulances, no relief," said the photographer, Abdel-Qader Fadl.

The accounts of all three witnesses mesh with that of the doctor who treated Stevens that night.


47 posted on 05/09/2013 3:55:40 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye
On the other hand... I'd be happy too if I thought my city might get leveled if we didn't turn a live ambassador back over to the US quickly... and I found said ambassador still breathing.

That said, I haven't seen the translated video so your assessment is likely true. Plus I don't think Ansar al Shariah or any other group is sufficiently intimidated by the Obama admin to turn over an ambassador or his corpse for fear Obama might actually DO something in retalliation.

48 posted on 05/09/2013 4:01:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest.


49 posted on 05/09/2013 4:08:04 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: TigersEye
It seems to be a fact that the jihadis moved a few blocks over to continue their attack on the CIA annex hours earlier

Yes.

I suspect the CIA annex and its personnel are what they were trying to find and destroy from the outset, with the attack on the diplomatic compound intended to draw these "first responder" Americans to the scene like a typical jihadist two-part bombing... or at minimum get the CIA to come out of its cover so they could follow them back to the nest.

50 posted on 05/09/2013 4:11:35 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
(13) The false narritive of the ObaMao admin blaming it on the video... destroyed the relationship with the new Libyan leader and kept the FBI out of the consulate for 18+ days.

This is probably the least destructive aspect of this debacle, but the results of this lame cover up narrative have never been quantified before this hearing from a 1st hand witness (Hicks, 2nd in command).

51 posted on 05/09/2013 4:13:36 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: TigersEye
""We were happy to see him alive. The youths tried to rescue him. But there was no security, no ambulances, nothing to help," said Ahmed Shams, the 22-year-old arts student."

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE...
H.R. Clinton

52 posted on 05/09/2013 4:19:22 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: TigersEye
If he was a hostage why did they take him to the hospital and turn him over to doctors there?

Well, just to play Devil's advocate...some speculation :

The hospital was Ansar al Shariah's headquarters in Benghazi; where else would they take him?

Why did one of them take his cell phone and call the first saved number in it, which was to the Tripoli embassy, and tell them they had rescued him and he was at the hospital?

Do we have a recording of that phone call or are we taking state's word for it what was said? If not, for all we know they called the embassy to give us their suggested retail price for his return, and our government may have paid it, whatever it was, or made some other blackmail deal.

Maybe the deal was to stand down and have our President and his officials conduct a very public, very humiliating international apology tour for the blasphemy of insulting the Prophet Muhammed?

If there was no such deal then they won that long-coveted prize for free because Obama and Hillary put on quite a show with that ridiculous apology ad aired in Pakistan, where Ansar al Shriah's dear al Libi was killed the previous June. obama and Hillary parroting BS for FREE.

[On the other hand they already had the humiliating 2009 Cairo speech from Obama for free too, so they need not have worked so hard to get concessions and tribute from Obama.] Contrary to some here, I do not believe all Libyans are bad guys. Until some real evidence pops up I still assume they were friendlies.

53 posted on 05/09/2013 4:28:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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I understand setting up a mortar for accuraate fire requires very good data...got to get the arc right.

Hicks said the mortars were deadly accurate.

To me that says they had known just where the annex was for quite some time.

54 posted on 05/09/2013 4:30:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TigersEye
Yes, you have people who took him saying the same thing.

They would collaborate even if they weren't telling the truth.

55 posted on 05/09/2013 4:30:33 PM PDT by what's up
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The hospital was Ansar al Shariah's headquarters in Benghazi; where else would they take him?

That is a much repeated headline today but the actual testimony was that the surrounding neighborhood was controlled by Ansar al Shariah not specifically the hospital. A fact that has been reported since at least Sept. 13th.

56 posted on 05/09/2013 4:48:35 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: what's up
Sure, everything is a conspiracy. I'm in on it with them. LOL

White House Watched Benghazi Attacked And Didn't Respond 10/24/2012

Looters ransacking the empty consulate discovered Ambassador Stevens lying unconscious from smoke inhalation on the floor and rushed him to a hospital where doctors were unsuccessful in saving his life. Not knowing who he was, they took a cell phone from his pocket and called numbers. By about 2:00 a.m. Libyan time, the American embassy received word he was dead.


57 posted on 05/09/2013 4:50:56 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye
No, not everything is a conspiracy.

But this could very well be one.

I'm not saying it is; I'm saying along with all the other disinformation given out about Benghazi it is not beyond the pale to think it is.

The fact that Bolton calls it "stunning" that the hospital may have been under terrorist control and the fact that Hicks testified that they were preparing for a hostage situation makes me think I might not be alone.

58 posted on 05/09/2013 4:57:02 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
So WHY DID THEY SAY THEY WERE FRIENDLY LOCALS?

Since an honest answer would belie the notion that, since Barack Hussein Obama is our leader, everybody in the Middle East loves us now.

59 posted on 05/09/2013 5:08:09 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Oddly enough some Libyans weren't happy about the killing of Ambassador Stevens.

30,000 Libyans protest against militias

The rally comes after last week's attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi left the US ambassador and three other Americans dead. At least one militia is suspected of taking part in the attack, which has caused Libyans to speak out against the armed factions in their country.


60 posted on 05/09/2013 5:11:54 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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