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State Department Orders Firm To Remove 3D-Printed Guns Web Blueprints
The Guardian ^ | May 10,2013 | Amanda Holpuch,Ewen MacAskill,Charles Arthur

Posted on 05/10/2013 4:29:22 AM PDT by Biggirl

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To: muawiyah

A URL link is needed okay? You got it! Go get a LINK please! THANK-YOU.


41 posted on 05/10/2013 6:22:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

What in the h.... are you talking about. have you read the last 7,841,328 threads on this particualar topic AND that’s just the ones on FR? This is all common knowledge ~ you can go back to the old invisible plastic gun debates if you want ~ good grief!!!!!


42 posted on 05/10/2013 6:24:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Please see post number 41. It did not settle it.


43 posted on 05/10/2013 6:24:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
i don't think you are on top of the topic ~ this is about State using a law we all knew about to tell this guy to quit exporting the specs for a firearm.

That particular firearm has been well covered in several recent FR threads ~ you seem to have not read them.

Get back to me when you have a basic understanding of the current topic and the several that preceed it.

44 posted on 05/10/2013 6:27:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

But this is still new to me, still learning. The learning NEVER stops.


45 posted on 05/10/2013 6:27:50 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
They are using the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, which govern export of arms from the US. Per the munitions list, export of regular firearms is regulated. Also in that same document is:
(i) Technical data (as defined in § 120.10 of this subchapter) and defense services (as de- fined in § 120.9 of this subchapter) directly re- lated to the defense articles enumerated in paragraphs (a) through (h) of this category. Technical data directly related to the manu- facture or production of any defense articles enumerated elsewhere in this category that are designated as Significant Military Equip- ment (SME) shall itself be designated SME.
Since the Internet is global, putting manufacturing instructions on the net is an "export" of "Technical data ... directly related to the defense articles enumerated in paragraphs (a) through (h)", per their interpretation of the regulations.

They used the same approach to try to stop dissemination of PGP encryption some years ago.

46 posted on 05/10/2013 6:28:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thank-you, thank-you, this is what I wanted!


47 posted on 05/10/2013 6:30:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3016699/posts ~ and that has URLs to take you to sites where you, yourself, can download the technical instructions to manufacture this firearm on your own home 3d printer. 3D printers are NOT new, but they are much cheaper now. This one is $1500 ~ last time I looked they were all over $10,000 and used more exotic materials.


48 posted on 05/10/2013 6:32:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PapaBear3625

Good informtion there.


49 posted on 05/10/2013 6:32:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: muawiyah

Thank-you for your help!


50 posted on 05/10/2013 6:33:28 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Technically, the diagram on post #34 of this thread would also count as “Technical data directly related to the manu- facture or production of any defense articles”. We’ll see if JimRob gets a letter from State Dept as well.


51 posted on 05/10/2013 6:37:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Good question in itself.


52 posted on 05/10/2013 6:42:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: expat_panama

NDAA. Ask Col. Allen West about the “ramifications.” Please do so, and report back. Col.West and Gov. Palin are favorites, as you well know. What many here do not know, is that both of their current favs, are well on-board with this crap.


53 posted on 05/10/2013 6:42:51 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Biggirl
The Net is like trying to unsee what you've seen.
Once it's out there, that's all folks.
54 posted on 05/10/2013 6:45:31 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism needs a re-awakening plan for the American public)
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To: PapaBear3625

Canadian in origin not subject to U.S. law?


55 posted on 05/10/2013 6:46:39 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Biggirl

Well, let’s see.

1. The Feds essentially declare war on the most patriotic and law-abiding segment of the population.

2. Feds downgrade military, while militarizing every other branch.

3. Feds order enormous amounts of hollow-point ammo, weapons, armored vehicles for non-military .

4. Feds attempt to regulate and criminalize practically everything.

5. Feds intrude into education and media, turn it into indoctrination.

6. Feds intrude into healthcare, begin to destroy it.

7. Feds intrude into economy, systematically undermine it.

8. Feds systematically undermine the Bill of Rights.

9. Feds systematically attempt to confiscate guns form law-abiding citizens.

10. Feds sieze simple, downloadable plans to make a gun at home.

11. Feds begin creating laws allowing control of internet, with contingencies for shutting it down in crises.

12. Fed develops unique attitude towards crises.


56 posted on 05/10/2013 6:49:38 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Pollster1; Biggirl
Dear gun grabbers, Good luck putting that cat back in the bag.

They don't care about putting this particular cat back in the bag. They want to ensure that this guy does not continue his development efforts, and discourage others from developing and disseminating directions for how to make fully-functional easy-to-make firearms on the internet.

Look for the next step to be indictments under ITAR for others who put manufacturing instructions on the net for things like AR lower receivers. Also, they will try to regulate 3D printers. Perhaps they will try to force makers to require any design to be uploaded to a central site, where it will be digitally signed and stored, thus removing people's ability to anonymously make things that the govt disapproves of.

57 posted on 05/10/2013 6:54:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: bert
I have the .stl files for all the parts to be interpreted by the printer but no drawings in a graphic format...

stl's are one of many modeling formats, check out: MeshLab, a free and open source cross-platform application for visualizing, processing and converting three-dimensional meshes to or from the STL file format.  works sweet!  here's the grip.stl file screenshot:


58 posted on 05/10/2013 7:00:08 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Biggirl
Yeah, THIS'll work.

LOL at the 'Stateless Department'.

59 posted on 05/10/2013 7:15:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I doubt if that is going to happen. Folks have a way of getting around obsticles.


60 posted on 05/10/2013 7:21:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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