Skip to comments.California Lead Ammunition Ban (AB 711) Goes to Assembly Floor
Posted on 05/11/2013 8:53:55 AM PDT by Redcloak
California Lead Ammunition Ban (AB 711) Goes to Assembly Floor
|Posted on May 11, 2013|
Contact your state Assemblyman IMMEDIATELY
Earlier this week, the California Assembly Appropriations Committee voted 11 to 5 to approve a proposed statewide lead ammunition ban for all hunting, Assembly Bill 711. AB 711 would make California the first state in the nation to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for hunting. This bill now goes to the state Assembly floor where it is expected to be brought up for a vote soon. The NRA urges all hunters, recreational shooters and gun owners to actively oppose AB 711. We strongly urge you to contact members of the state Assembly. Please forward this alert to your family, friends, fellow sportsmen and gun owners throughout California and urge them to do the same. Contact information for all state Assemblymen can be found here.
Be sure to check out HuntForTruth.orgs shocking new video opposing AB 711 and its recent hard-hitting rebuttal to the bill sponsors alleged facts sheet in support of the bill. This video and the rebuttal reveal the truth regarding lead ammunition, and expose the misinformation being spread by the ammunition ban proponents in their latest attack on hunters that is being disguised as a campaign to get the lead out.
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Has anyone mentioned to these idiots that lead is a natural occurring mineral in nature?
What next? Are they going to ban all surface lead deposits in the United States?
Where are they finding ANY ammo to ban?
I certainly can’t find any—and neither can anyone else I know.
It’s out there. Too bad you would have to take out a 2nd on your house to buy any. Or maybe a title loan against your truck.
The people of California need to get a proposition on the ballot that bans all politicians there from possessing money. Money causes politicians to become dishonest and corrupt. This corruption eventually hurts the people of California by costing them billions each year in taxes. Just another good idea.
So now all that will be available will be armor piercing?
If they amended it to say “Any public Servant, Public official, Public Employee found in possession of ANY Lead Based Ammunition SHALL be Guilty of a Felony punishable by not less than 20 years in State Prison” Then I would support it.
We need this law to pass.
Something so ridiculous that SCOTUS is forced to back up its own recent opinions on the 2A.
The sooner the better.
I haven’t been able to find any in my area for a long time—at any price.
We (Second Amendment Sisters) have a ladies learn to shoot event coming up soon in central TX, and we are searching for several calibers—namely 9’s and 38’s. So far, we’re not finding any.
Didn’t see that one coming (rolls eyes).
I guess I’ll have to resort to tungsten and depleted uraniun rounds now. Be careful what you ask for, because the alternatives are far worse than the original problem. Besides, I doubt all of the illegals in Kalifornia will become enviromentally sensitive, and turn in their car batteries and lead rounds.
Consider it Passed.
There is nothing that can be done to stop it. My Reps are Republican, and they are the Minority by a long shot.
The Rats will move on to the next “crisis” once they get this one mandated.
SAS. Outstanding. I remember when they first started and even sent some money to help them. Got a great sticker on my tool box. Gotta love Girls With Guns. If I had any spare ammo I’d send it along.
And a special on depleted uranium...
It doesn’t need to actually lose to get knocked down in the Assembly. The “Rule of 41” requires 41 yes votes for anything to pass. They can have a vote that goes 40-0 and the bill would still fail. We just need enough rural Democrats to go and take a bathroom break at the right moment to stop this. Conversely, we also need to make sure that some idiot Republican doesn’t succomb to an urge to be “bipartisan”. The ‘pubies all need to be encouraged to vote no or take a powder when the vote is taken.
Here’s a short list of ammo suppliers to go thru. Both calibers can be had, but prices are not cheap:
The study that started all of this was Church et al. They claimed that isotopic analysis proved that lead in condors in the wild was coming from ammunition. Their data showed a shift in the isotopic ratios from one narrow range (found in the meat used to feed the birds at zoo facilities) to another narrow range. They claimed that this 2nd narrow range of ratios matched the ratios they found in lead ammo. The problem is that they sampled only a handful of the ammo brands that are used by California hunters. In reality, lead isotope ratios from ammo cover a broad range, not a narrow one. Were the lead coming from ammo, the isotopic ratios they measured from birds in the wild would have covered a broad range. The fact that they found a narrow one contradicts their hypothesis. So in fact, Church proved that the lead isn't coming from ammo!
The real threat to these birds was the loss of the continent's Pleistocene megafauna. They're designed to eat things like dead mammouths. Once the North American megafauna species were gone, the condors started to decline. The process has reached the point where their extinction is impossible to stop. There isn't enough genetic diversity left in the remaining population for it to last.
DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!!
Yes, the "non-toxic" alternatives would be considered armor piercing under Federal and California law. So of course, they would have to be banned too. They're also more toxic to wildlife and would have to be banned on that account as well. Mash here for more info on the toxicity of "non-toxic" ammo.
How about target and self defense?
California is proud of their diversity. I’m sure there’s enough variety to feed to vultures.
An excellent question. Supposedly, the bill exempts ammo used for target shooting or self defense. But existing DFG regulations make that fuzzy during the hunting season. Right now, if you carry a pistol for self-defense during the deer season in Kondor Kountry, and you have lead ammo in that gun, Mr. Ranger will cite you for having lead ammo; this despite the fact that you didn’t use that pistol or its ammo to ventilate Bambi. So this bill would affect the right of hunters Statewide to defend themselves from 2- and 4-legged threats with tried-and-true lead ammo.
Some time ago, someone warned that the “green movement” was cover for a larger effort to establish across-the-board control over everything.
Nah. Couldn’t happen.
[[The NRA urges all hunters, recreational shooters and gun owners to actively oppose AB 711.]]
What the herll good will that do? Even IF the peopel prevail, and the bill is dropped- it will just be put through again by soem judge AGAINST the people’s will just liek prop 8 tiem and itme again-
I guess the only other “soft” metal we will be able to use for hunting bullets that will expand so it will kill a deer before runs 500 yards away and dies would be gold. I’m sure the idiots in Sacramento would allow that. So what if it costs us $500.00 a round.
I wonder if anyone in CA would be motivated to hunt condor by this bill. The logic, of course, is if there are no condors, then there is no need for the bill.
Coyotes, Golden Eagles, and DNA are already doing a number on them.
How does this affect the military, the police etc.? Does it extend offshore and up in the air?
Thanks for the informative response. Interesting stuff in there. I appreciate it.
Unlike New York, California’s legislators are smart enough not to write laws that disarm the police. ;-)
Giving lead poisoning to a home invader is considered cruel and unusual punishment in CA.
Maybe we can ban magazines for the handguns if they hold too many rounds.
Maybe we can ban what the bullets are made of.
OK, lets go away from handguns and ban semi-auto rifles!
A never ending struggle to keep your Second Amendment rights!
Some years ago one of the shootin’ mags cast up a couple of silver bullies, like the Lone Ranger.
Didn’t work so well, too hard as I recall.
Excellent summary !
Making it easy for the gangbangers