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The Taxman vs. the Tea Party
The New York Times ^ | May 11, 2013 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 05/11/2013 5:58:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

AS a taxpayer and a conservative who hopes to remain on good terms with the Internal Revenue Service for many April 15ths to come, I don’t want to speculate too freely about the motives of the “low level” I.R.S. employees who decided to single out Tea Party groups for an inappropriate level of attention during the heat of the 2012 campaign.

But I’m willing to guess this much: Even though an American Civil Liberties Union official described their excessive interest in right-wing groups as “about as constitutionally troubling as it gets,” the bureaucrats in question probably thought they were just doing their patriotic duty, and giving dangerous extremists the treatment they deserved.

Where might an enterprising, public-spirited I.R.S. agent get the idea that a Tea Party group deserved more scrutiny from the government than the typical band of activists seeking tax-exempt status? Oh, I don’t know: why, maybe from all the prominent voices who spent the first two years of the Obama era worrying that the Tea Party wasn’t just a typically messy expression of citizen activism, but something much darker — an expression of crypto-fascist, crypto-racist rage, part Timothy McVeigh and part Bull Connor, potentially carrying a wave of terrorist violence in its wings....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: internalrevenue; irs; irsteaparty; obama; teaparty
Comments?
1 posted on 05/11/2013 5:58:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, I have a comment.

It sorta begs the question, of the Tea Party and the IRS, which group seems more like terrorists?


2 posted on 05/11/2013 6:03:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m glad no one reads the Times or this guy would feel like an idiot.


3 posted on 05/11/2013 6:05:29 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Hatch act prohibits gub'mnt employees from getting involved in party organizing business, but it doesn't stop them from having ideas and acting on them ~ independently of party structural elements.

Your typical Leftwingtard does tend to believe what the party big dogs tell him to believe, so if they're saying the TEAParty are killing people, he'll not investigate the truth for himself ~

However, in general, IRS hires a higher caliber of employee ~ so I'd look for a small group of day traders, gamblers, or alcoholics who needed money, and just buy them. There'd be no more money for their personal vices if they didn't act on my requests.

Seriously, in the federal government the higher you go up the food chain the less the bosses know about how the agency really operates or what power it might have. Low level employees could have pulled this off but there's a Democrat fixer out there somewhere ~ maybe George Soros?

4 posted on 05/11/2013 6:05:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lets see: Standard and Poors was an early example of the fascism that we are seeing more and more of.


5 posted on 05/11/2013 6:06:43 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yeah - it’s okay if the IRS investigates because right wing groups are strange and out there.

Not like good Muslim patriot groups. :)


6 posted on 05/11/2013 6:08:11 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two things stand out: first, the author insists with no evidence that it was only the work of a few misguided low-level IRS employees, and second, that he considers the incident closed. Neither is the case.

If it is the truth that low-level IRS employees are free to make up their own enemies lists then we have a fundamental failure in management for which the highest officials need to be held responsible. If, on the other hand, it is the truth that they were carrying out orders that originated at the highest level, then the givers of those orders need to be jailed, up to and including the President. This was one of the articles of impeachment aimed at Richard Nixon, and deservedly so: it is a frightening abuse of power. The power to tax is the power to destroy, as Learned Hand once reminded us. This was no silly administrative error.

7 posted on 05/11/2013 6:08:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. I have a comment.

Repeal the 16th amendment, go back to funding the federal government with “duties, imposts and excises”, and return the U.S. to a Constitutional money regime absent the Federal Reserve scam.

This crap always happens when the thugs take over the government. Like Mexico, they go into government to get rich.

If that income flow gets threatened, they use the tax collections bureaucracy to club anyone daring to oppose them.


8 posted on 05/11/2013 6:08:51 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Billthedrill
This was no silly administrative error

Nope. Now they're trying to downplay it because they a) knew it would come out and b) know that it will blow up in their faces.

We can only hope.

9 posted on 05/11/2013 6:10:37 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tax=Gazi from the Slimes...
10 posted on 05/11/2013 6:58:02 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This whole story reeks from soup to nuts. Tis wasn’t politically motivated?? What?! Are they freakin kidding? How would they know? Did they ask the low level employee and he or she said “no, of course not” and they believed it and felt compelled to tell us that? Why would they believe something so obviously untrue? They wouldn’t.


11 posted on 05/11/2013 7:30:25 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A government agency interfered with the 2012 elections with their threats and intimidation. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL!


12 posted on 05/11/2013 7:54:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is the root cause of violent crime in Mexico. - Barack Hussein Obama Jr.)
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To: Billthedrill
If it is the truth that low-level IRS employees are free to make up their own enemies lists then we have a fundamental failure in management

The Obama White House enemies list is what I want to see. You don't put groups on the watch list without creating an enemies list in parallel. More than one presidential White House has had an enemies list. Obama's would not be an exception.

13 posted on 05/11/2013 9:32:55 PM PDT by Rapscallion (People died. Obama lied....to win the election and bankrupt the US..)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I was going to say this was as bad as Nixon’suse of the IRS, but this has gotten significantly worse coupled with Benghazi.


14 posted on 05/12/2013 4:47:24 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“low level”.
You know that’s a load of crappola.
I’d bet the farm this also goes to the top,
Meaning the”magic negro”.


15 posted on 05/12/2013 5:15:14 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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