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Is Government Regulation of Gardens Next?
Political Outcast ^ | May 11, 2013 | Dave Jolly

Posted on 05/12/2013 5:00:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How many of you have flower or vegetable gardens at your home? I know many people are growing their own herbs to use for cooking as well as indoor and outdoor vegetable gardens. Others have flowers in pots, window boxes, hanging baskets, in flower beds and outdoor gardens.

My wife and I have a number of vegetables and fruit growing outside which include apples (2 varieties), beans (purple and wax), broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cantaloupes, carrots, cherries, cucumbers (bush), grapes (5 varieties), onions (red), peas (green and snap), potatoes (3 varieties), sage, radishes, tomatoes (6 varieties), and watermelons (3 varieties). We also have about 70 different daylilies, along with some crocuses, tulips, marigolds and zinnias. If you can’t tell, my wife and I love to garden.

If America follows the ways of the Great Britain and the European Commission, my wife and I could be guilty of producing and cultivating illegal seeds.

I’ve learned over the years to watch what is happening in Great Britain and the European Commission because the US tends to follow them by 5-20 years depending. A couple of decades ago, I saw hundreds of churches in Great Britain close their doors because attendance had dropped off so much. The number of British identifying themselves as Christians also dropped significantly.

Look at America today. Church after church is closing their doors because of dwindling numbers. Church buildings are being sold and turned into bars, restaurants, apartments, homes and even mosques. The number of Americans identifying themselves as Christians is dropping and they have lost control of the nation.

Following this trend, I saw where a new law is being proposed by the European Union to register and regulate all plant seeds and vegetables used by anyone from farmers to a single flower pot. The Plant Reproductive Material Law will require all seeds to be tested, approved and accepted by the newly formed EU Plant Variety Agency. You can read the current copy of the proposed bill here.

Anyone who grows plants from non-regulated seeds would be guilty of committing a criminal act. I’ve collected seeds from the vegetables and flowers I’ve grown and have cultivated them. Under the proposed EU bill, I would be guilty of a crime for doing so, if it were to eventually come here to the States. I also know a family who has a business of raising and selling different varieties of daylilies. They work to cross pollinate different ones to produce new varieties and colors of these beautiful flowers. That too would be a crime unless they had a government inspector come in and test their new seeds and plants and then register them.

If you thought the idea of registering guns was absurd, can you image a government that wants to register and regulate all plants and seeds? If you think it would never happen here, let me remind you that Obama has taken control of healthcare, student loans, and is trying to control firearms, education, banking, religion and even our speech. Michelle Obama and Michael Bloomberg have been trying to regulate our diets and eating habits. Doesn’t it make sense that plant and seed control is next? We’re losing so many of our freedoms, that it wouldn’t surprise me to see us lose the freedom to plant a garden next. Remember, what happens across the Big Pond, generally makes its way here eventually!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agriculture; eu; europe; food; nannystate; plants; regulations; seedregistry; seeds
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1 posted on 05/12/2013 5:00:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Euro-Peon Agri-Business Superstate Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 05/12/2013 5:01:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

And a regular PING, too!


3 posted on 05/12/2013 5:03:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Where ever the UK goes America and the rest of West are certain to follow.


4 posted on 05/12/2013 5:04:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Already here. A man can’t grow wheat to feed his family and animals without impacting interstate commerce:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn


5 posted on 05/12/2013 5:05:39 PM PDT by Flightdeck (IMPEACH and CONVICT)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

F Big Brother. Their goal is to slap a barcode on every damn item so they can track and steal it fom you or tax you to death over it.


6 posted on 05/12/2013 5:06:56 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Flightdeck

Because, by not impacting interstate commerce, he impacted interstate commerce.

This when Joseph Heller was only up to about Catch 14.


7 posted on 05/12/2013 5:08:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This goes back to one of bill clinton’s eos for fema. Not new.


8 posted on 05/12/2013 5:11:14 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Government can kiss my fuzzy butt.

I'll grow what I like in my garden.

/johnny

9 posted on 05/12/2013 5:12:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Don’t give Monsanto any more ideas!


10 posted on 05/12/2013 5:14:15 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: JRandomFreeper

And the FDA will send its SWAT teams to destroy an illegally grown produce!


11 posted on 05/12/2013 5:14:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Guns and a garden...an American tradition.


12 posted on 05/12/2013 5:15:01 PM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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Also. if I recall correctly, you couldn’t have more than three days worth of supplies stored. I think congress put the kybosh on it.


13 posted on 05/12/2013 5:16:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Kriggerel

For all I know, Monsanto stands to gain from this somehow, regarding not only registration, but REGULATION of the seeds.


14 posted on 05/12/2013 5:17:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They'll need to kill me. They should bring a lunch, this could take a while.

/johnny

15 posted on 05/12/2013 5:18:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Is Government Regulation of Gardens Next?

Probably, followed almost immediately by mass disregard for government regulation.

16 posted on 05/12/2013 5:19:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks


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17 posted on 05/12/2013 5:20:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

drip, drip, drip, drip.....
The hammer and sickle is at work in Amerika.
Premier Obumbo Wants YOU.


18 posted on 05/12/2013 5:21:50 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seed confiscation.


19 posted on 05/12/2013 5:22:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If we could compost all of the crapola that comes out of DC we could supply Americas gardens with all the fertilizer they can ever use.


20 posted on 05/12/2013 5:24:09 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: JRandomFreeper

ROFLMAO!

Thank God for guns, huh, johnny!?!?!?


21 posted on 05/12/2013 5:25:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“They’ll need to kill me. They should bring a lunch, this could take a while.”

And, it was your influence that helped me start to garden, so they should kill you twice.


22 posted on 05/12/2013 5:33:15 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So we get no gubmint ‘carbon footprint reducing credits’ with all the enviro-friendly CO2 sucking greenies we produce? Or maybe we need to sprinkle in a few ‘medicinal marijuana’ plants to placate the leftist lord barons on the Potomac?


23 posted on 05/12/2013 5:33:22 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
watermelons (3 varieties)

I think that's racist. Report to the camp and do a 'self - denunciation'.

24 posted on 05/12/2013 5:37:22 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
80 years late on this one!

They already regulate which flowers you can and can't grow, on your own property!

25 posted on 05/12/2013 5:38:17 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up" Jeremiah 50:32)
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To: Marcella
They might need to. I've turned out to be difficult to kill.

/johnny

26 posted on 05/12/2013 5:41:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Been happening for at least a couple decades. Try using raw milk - guns a blazing...


27 posted on 05/12/2013 5:48:11 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

At precisely the same time that we dispense with ANY control of people crossing into our borders, we crack down with SS alacrity on plants, animals.

It’s really weird —it’s a kind of zero-sum game, apparently.


28 posted on 05/12/2013 5:48:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m not saying the govt wouldn’t try it but in a country the size of the US it would likely be unenforceable.


29 posted on 05/12/2013 5:51:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I’m not saying the govt wouldn’t try it but in a country the size of the US it would likely be unenforceable.

Never underestimate the power of drones with high resolution cameras, vision systems, and GIS data (Geographic Information System).

30 posted on 05/12/2013 6:01:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Are you talking about the same government that can't get a handle on Afghanistan? A nation about the size of Texas?

Don't give them too much credit. They do a great job of 'making an example' of someone, but they don't handle widespread disobedience well. Or marijuana would be extinct in the US.

/johnny

31 posted on 05/12/2013 6:05:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I believe tobacco seed is already very heavily regulated. Anyone from a tobacco state know?


32 posted on 05/12/2013 6:20:37 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: CrazyIvan
I'm growing tobacco in the garden. It's not regulated at all.

/johnny

33 posted on 05/12/2013 6:26:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Looks like the feds will soon have Mother Nature in irons and headed for a FEMA Reprogramming Facility.


34 posted on 05/12/2013 6:27:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: CrazyIvan

If you plan to sell the tobacco you grow, there are regs. But you can buy seeds all you want. Pinetree sells some.


35 posted on 05/12/2013 6:35:33 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: JRandomFreeper; CrazyIvan
I'm growing tobacco in the garden.

It is supposedly very easy to grow, but labor intensive.

It's not regulated at all.

You are only permitted to grow 1/10th of an acre per homeowner.

36 posted on 05/12/2013 6:38:02 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You know, the reason for the government doing this was obvious decades ago.

What isn’t so obvious is why people put up with such stupidity.


37 posted on 05/12/2013 6:39:57 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Can we just start killing these people pushing this sh*t?

Do you think anything less will stop them?


38 posted on 05/12/2013 6:41:50 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Gabz
4,400 sq ft of tobacco is too much for me. I don't have nearly that much planted.

I don't find it labor intensive at all. I start them early inside, and plant them through landscaping fabric so I don't have to deal with weeds. I've got good healthy plants with leaves the size of a computer keyboard.

/johnny

39 posted on 05/12/2013 6:57:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It would be too much for me as well, I was just pointing out that it is regulated, even for the home gardener.


40 posted on 05/12/2013 7:02:37 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
It's just luck that I'm not exceeding that. I tend to ignore stupid laws that can't be effectively enforced. It's an American tradition.

/johnny

41 posted on 05/12/2013 7:10:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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42 posted on 05/12/2013 7:16:36 PM PDT by narses
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Some wimpy little building inspector is going to come to my door and order me — demand! — that I pull up everything in my garden?

Then he’s going to knock on all my neighbors’ doors and demand the same from all of them?

Little peckerhead better be drawing “hazardous duty” pay because he won’t make it past two houses before he’s head-first into the compost pile. If he’s lucky he might still be alive to pull himself back out again!


43 posted on 05/12/2013 7:18:56 PM PDT by DNME ("... to support and defend the Constitution of the U.S. against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
BREAKING: European Commission to criminalize nearly all seeds and plants not registered with government
Monday, May 06, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com
As you might suspect, this move is the "final solution" of Monsanto, DuPont and other seed-domination corporations who have long admitted their goal is the complete domination of all seeds and crops grown on the planet. By criminalizing the private growing of vegetables -- thereby turning gardeners into criminals -- EU bureaucrats can finally hand over full control of the food supply to powerful corporations like Monsanto.

Most heirloom seeds to be criminalized Nearly all varieties of heirloom vegetable seeds will be criminalized under this proposed EU law. This means the act of saving seeds from one generation to the next -- a cornerstone of sustainable living -- will become a criminal act.

In addition, as Gabel explains, this law "...effectively kills off development of home-garden seeds in the EU."



44 posted on 05/12/2013 7:26:43 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dec. 5, 1932 one of Stalin’s goons ordered “the mere possession of food is evidence of a crime.” Also I think about this time he made it illegal to harvest vegetables from your own garden without permission from a bureaucrat. Can someone help with this last statement? I think it could get you sent to a Siberian Gulag.


45 posted on 05/12/2013 7:27:03 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: JRandomFreeper
“I'm growing tobacco in the garden. It's not regulated at all.”

Had an old uncle who grew his own in Missouri. Took the the same crop and cured it several ways. Rolled his own most of the time. Smoked a pipe when he could sit. Chewed when in church or other formal event. Lived to be 96.

46 posted on 05/12/2013 7:35:48 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Robert Heinlein through the character of Lazarus Long offered this sage and timely advice.

Be wary of strong drink. It cam make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss!

47 posted on 05/12/2013 7:37:51 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: Ellendra

I should have made the distinction between commercial and private use. Thanks.


48 posted on 05/12/2013 7:38:52 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Where ever the UK goes America and the rest of West are certain to follow.

*Needs fixing*

Where ever the UK goes America and the rest of WestAmerican and Western liberals are certain to follow.

*Fixed* More descriptive and grounded in reality.

:-)

49 posted on 05/12/2013 7:41:54 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Are you talking about the same government that can't get a handle on Afghanistan? A nation about the size of Texas?

Oh they can, they just don't want to. It causes us to borrow money, which the lenders like just fine. We'll bail them out, while they get to call shots at Treasury auctions. What's not to like?

Or marijuana would be extinct in the US.

With printed dollars as the reserve currency of the dope business, why would they want the dope pipeline to dry up? Hell, don't you understand that Afghanistan and Kosovo/Albania are the two ends of the heroin pipeline into Europe? Do you want that to be euros or dollars? The whole point of the EMU was for Germany to print a global reserve alternative to the dollar. It's a license to print and lend money without consequence.

50 posted on 05/12/2013 7:55:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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