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Hawaii Obamacare Leaders Warn: “We’re not Going to Have Any Health Care”
hawaiifreepress.com ^ | May 12, 2013

Posted on 05/13/2013 1:35:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

In the last few weeks, numerous Hawaii healthcare industry leaders have stepped forward to create deniability for themselves in the upcoming Hawaii Health Connector/Health Exchange disaster. Those who are implementing Obamacare in Hawaii are now putting themselves on the record explaining that Obamacare will mean higher insurance premiums, fewer doctors and nurses, and shuttered hospitals.

Here are their statements, accumulated in one place so that it can be clearly seen that many of those who are in charge are predicting failure:

HMSA Chief Predicts Obamacare 'Rate Shock' for Hawaii

Maui News May 9, 2013: If Hawaii consumers think health care reform will lower costs, especially in the short term, then they should brace themselves for "rate shock," said Michael Gold, president and chief executive officer of the Hawaii Medical Service Association.

His comments came Wednesday, about a week after the Hawaii state insurance commissioner approved a rate increase of 6.8 percent for HMSA....

"Across the country, people are talking about what they're calling 'rate shock,' '' Gold said. "The idea behind 'rate shock' is that it will be a shock to everybody when rates actually go up instead of coming down once health care reform is implemented....

While it's a "good thing" to extend health coverage to more people, "the money has to come from someplace," Gold said. "It's going to come from, in a sense, all of us who've been paying up until now."

Insurance rates will go up to pay for federal levies assessed on health plans, he said, "and the health plans are going to build those into their rates because they don't have any extra money."...

(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: commiecare; corruption; democrats; fail; hawaii; healthcare; obama; obamacare; pelosi; socialisthealthcare

1 posted on 05/13/2013 1:35:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

This thing will be a cataclysm for health care in this country.


2 posted on 05/13/2013 1:39:55 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

BIT_OFF_A_HELL_OF_A_LOT_MORE_THAN_THEY_CAN_CHEW_PING!


3 posted on 05/13/2013 1:45:39 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Jim Robinson
What? Hawaii is going back to it's cultural roots and is cooking doctors in volcanos?

/johnny

4 posted on 05/13/2013 1:47:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: headstamp 2

Which will send the US economy into a tailspin that will ensure our demise... can’t say we weren’t warned... but of course it was and still is racism to say as much... G-D Obama’s America and Obama himself.


5 posted on 05/13/2013 1:48:37 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Jim Robinson

People who pimped 0bamacare now bashing it? Gee, thanks. Only problem is, we’re stuck with this law. A-holes.


6 posted on 05/13/2013 1:48:49 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh my goodness! Obviously the employed are not paying enough taxes.


7 posted on 05/13/2013 1:49:34 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Jim Robinson

Gee, that’s kinda’ what you get when pols vote yes on bills they haven’t even read.


8 posted on 05/13/2013 1:50:22 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, what wonderful young student would sign up for Med school at this time?

Start with that.

But then, go to a local health food store and inquire about how this administration is choking out the preventive, out of pocket health care system.

It’s worse than most think. He has no intention of taking care of health and longevity.


9 posted on 05/13/2013 1:51:39 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Jim Robinson

I think a lot of individuals will just pay the penalty because the premiums are too high. I see in CA they are proposing an additional penalty on big business for part time workers that qualify for medical. I think it is if someone works even 8 hrs. a week. Meanwhile they’re spending millions of union wages to people to market the exchange in several languages.


10 posted on 05/13/2013 1:52:43 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Jim Robinson
If I have the concept correct, requiring under 30's people to have insurance will increase the pool of payers but since young people have fewer medical costs, they will not use medical services as often, thus, lowering the cost of insurance.

However, when the unemployment rate (not counting the underemployed) of the under 30's is 25%, that means that 25% will be on medicaid.

That same unemployment rate is of course the direct consequence of the cost of Obamacare.

There's still no such thing as a free lunch no matter how many times liberals wish for one.

11 posted on 05/13/2013 1:56:21 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Jim Robinson

“National healthcare is the keystone in the arch of the socialist state.” — Lenin


12 posted on 05/13/2013 2:00:02 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Jim Robinson

Not even the folks in the (future) Obama Library? No Obamacare?

TT

wow


13 posted on 05/13/2013 2:08:33 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: headstamp 2

And that was the purpose of the whole thing...

Next fix will be “single payer.”


14 posted on 05/13/2013 2:15:04 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
They got it passed. That's all they needed to do.

Do you know of any liberal/Dem proposed law/entitlement that didn't cost more than they said it would? They all knew they were under-reporting the cost: the important thing was to get it written into law, then push that we have to support it with more money ("It's the LAW!!").

15 posted on 05/13/2013 2:15:39 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mark for read later...


16 posted on 05/13/2013 2:19:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Rusty0604

Their governor could save his citizens millions of dollars by releasing the BC and telling the truth.


17 posted on 05/13/2013 2:23:54 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Thanks to Turncoat Justice Roberts on the USSC. He first voted to strike it down, then changed his mind leading up to the official decision.

(Could the reported government investigation, at the time, of his adopted children, had any bearing on him changing his mind?)


18 posted on 05/13/2013 2:53:09 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Jim Robinson
Health care is in a crisis right now: Reimbursements are going down, we've got aging facilities, doctors are leaving. If we don't change the way we do business, we're not going to have any health care."….

What are we to make of this?

19 posted on 05/13/2013 3:03:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Jim Robinson

oh no. I am shocked that O would have lied to us about his power grab/s


20 posted on 05/13/2013 3:23:20 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Jim Robinson

bump


21 posted on 05/13/2013 4:17:42 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: headstamp 2

“This thing will be a cataclysm for health care in this country.”

It doesn’t have to be, we can charge forward with a political movement towards nullification and repeal.

This massive hike should be harness to sway people away from Washington and Obamacare and back to free markets.

We should site this is proof of Big government failure.


22 posted on 05/13/2013 4:18:31 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: headstamp 2

The trainwreck is a few months away. When people get no healthcare and call a doctor only to be refused, the train is going to leave the tracks.

Gonna get real ugly.


23 posted on 05/13/2013 4:22:38 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: dforest
The trainwreck is a few months away. When people get no healthcare and call a doctor only to be refused, the train is going to leave the tracks.

Gonna get real ugly. Actually I'm looking forward to it. Can't wait for the great unwashed demturd voters who all of a sudden will realize their dreams of "free" healthcare are nothing more than smoke & mirrors. Especially when they can't find any doctors to treat them or examine them, and they end up overwhelming & killing the emergency rooms in most hospitals if not all hospitals. Just stay alert & well fortified, and let the demturds & entitlement class riot in the streets!

24 posted on 05/13/2013 5:22:03 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

I’m looking forward to it, too. I can head to the Philippines and Asia as we have company offices there, cheaper too. The country needs to be crippled so we can rebuild.


25 posted on 05/13/2013 8:00:43 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: JimSEA
are govt workers going to be getting these hits?.....those on Medicare?....those receiving charity care?...those on Medicaid?....illegals?...congresscritters?

does this just fall on we mere private sector workers?....

26 posted on 05/13/2013 9:50:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Monorprise

seriously, we couldn’t even get freepers to support Romney....how you gonna “charge forward” with folks that can’t work to defeat the most dangerous man in the world?...


27 posted on 05/13/2013 10:00:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

“does this just fall on we mere private sector workers?.... “

Yeah and we’re so selfish!!


28 posted on 05/13/2013 10:52:27 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: bgill

My thoughts exactly.


29 posted on 05/14/2013 6:26:10 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: Jim Robinson

ObamaCare isn’t supposed to work, by design...The idea is to make it fail so bad, that the only solution is a complete government takeover of healthcare.

That’s why the Democrats didn’t really care about what was in the Bill itself.


30 posted on 05/14/2013 6:27:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cherry

We as conservatives are going to have to put aside our differences to achieve a few limited goals on the federal level.

This is not to say that we should forsake our other goals merely that we should presue theses other goals by diffrent means.

I am a firm believer that Washington is deadlocked for the good reason that we as a people cannot agree on theses issues and therefore should not function together on them.

Washington politicians including their employees both in and out of black robes have the corrupt position that if they can’t weld all power on the matter nobody should. We must resit, obstruct and ultimalty marginalia them at the State level.

SHUT DOWN WASHINGTON, let our States reclaim dominance on domestic affairs. Let the left run themselves and their poor states into the ground.


31 posted on 05/14/2013 12:32:10 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Jim Robinson
it will be a shock to everybody when rates actually go up instead of coming down once health care reform is implemented.

Yeah. A real shock.

32 posted on 05/14/2013 12:40:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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