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Nobody's Laughing Now: How pervasive is the Obama IRS scandal?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 13, 2013 | James Taranto

Posted on 05/13/2013 3:05:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

David Plouffe had an intriguing comment yesterday on the scandal involving selective tax-law enforcement against Tea Party groups. The manager of the 2008 Obama campaign who served as a top White House aide until this January, tweeted: "What IRS did dumb and wrong. Impt to note GOP groups flourished last 2 elections, overwhelming Ds. And they will use this to raise more $."

National Journal's Ron Fournier responded with a trio of "serious questions: Why is that important to note? Is it justification for the action you called wrong? If not, why note?" Fournier describes the responses he got:

Several Twitter readers quickly offered their own interpretation, including conservative columnist James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal. "Because it goes to the question of motive," Taranto tweeted. I asked Plouffe to respond via Twitter, email or my cell phone. He responded within an hour. Here is his unedited email:

"In terms of impact. Reading much of the coverage layperson would get sense premeditated attempt to effectively silence political opponents. I do think not as a justification but as an evaluation of any impact it is important to note that it would not appear their aims or fundraising were affected. So indefensible behavior by IRS clearly the story. As people are doing analysis it's a secondary point."

"So you were speaking to the impact, not justifying the actions or (providing) motive?" I asked via email. "Exactly," Plouffe replied.

We stand behind our tweet, which reflected our own thought as to why it's important, not an effort to divine Plouffe's. But his response to Fournier is telling. He's trying to minimize the scandal by suggesting that the abuse of IRS power was ineffective in achieving a political end....

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; democrats; internalrevenue; irs; irsbrownshirts; irsscandal; obama; plouffe
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1 posted on 05/13/2013 3:05:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trust Anderson Cooper will still be doing shake-n-bake with the Cincinnati Hell House.

No Benghazi, no IRS persecution, no Gosnell, no AP phone taps...none of that.

CNN will probably build a Hell House torture sound stage complete with hanging chains and monkey bars for Anderson Cooper to swing on.


2 posted on 05/13/2013 3:06:53 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many OTHER agencies are ‘targeting’ conservatives?.. EPA, DHS, SSA. Now if only the FBI would target Muslims. Oh wait.. That would never happen.


3 posted on 05/13/2013 3:09:27 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Senator Max Baucus is leading the investigation into the IRS ,but he also urged the IRS to target conservative groups on 2010 D’oh


4 posted on 05/13/2013 3:10:12 PM PDT by molson209
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Because it goes to the question of motive,"

The motive is to guarantee TYRANNY!! Scare enough of the sheeple and Obama rules for life.

5 posted on 05/13/2013 3:11:43 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Remember Republican Chrysler dealers got the ax first.


6 posted on 05/13/2013 3:13:54 PM PDT by petercooper
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To: Don Corleone
Scare enough of the sheeple and Obama rules for life.

Scare enough of the sheeple and ..........(unprintable) might happen. At the rate of discourses in the past months, this Admin cannot survive another four year, ABSOLUTELY CANNOT.
7 posted on 05/13/2013 3:14:35 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The irony is that if the MSM had been doing its job as non vested journalists and not as thinly disguised Obama supporters, the Obama people may have properly thought that the Benghazi coverup and the IRS harassments was not such a good idea. They figured with the MSM in their pocket, they could do this nonsense and if found out a simple denial or apology would suffice. Pure hubris on the part of both the MSM and the Obama people.


8 posted on 05/13/2013 3:15:47 PM PDT by allendale
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why is the media covering the IRS scandal?

I was shocked to see the large media finally for the first time report news.

My thoughts are that the media is trying to draw attention away from the Amnesty bill they are trying to sneak through Congress.

9 posted on 05/13/2013 3:16:56 PM PDT by Democrat_media (D's & Mary Landrieu voted 4 UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the article:
scandal involving selective tax-law enforcement against Tea Party groups.

This was not tax-law enforcement, it was illegal. They were asking for information not required by law.


10 posted on 05/13/2013 3:17:01 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nobody's Laughing Now yes there is, somewhere, Richard Nixon is laughing...
11 posted on 05/13/2013 3:18:08 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

impt to note, David,, yur busted


12 posted on 05/13/2013 3:19:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: All
THIS JUST IN: House panel to formally question IRS commissioner Friday

Cong Issa's panel should find out what the Obomba WH and Holder's DOJ knew about abusing IRS power for illegal purposes. Congress MUST ask the right questions:

(1) The IRS has admitted profiling conservative groups for extra-IRS scrutiny----did the IRS ever leak tax info?

(2) Obama took control of the census when he took office in 2008---was census info ever used in conjunction w/ IRS data?

(3) Were there ever break- ins at the hdq of Tea Party, patriot groups , home-schoolers, Christian individual and groups, gun rights advocates, Romney hdq, Repub offices?

(4) Did the actions of a sitting US president using the power of the IRS like a 40's-era Gestapo invalidate the presidential election of 2012?

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Cong Issa needs to be prepared to use the following info:

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city- news/secret-service-takes-alleged-stolen-romney-tax- records-sent- williamson-political-g

Secret Service takes alleged stolen Romney tax records sent to Williamson political groups --- Sept 5, 2012

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/anonymous-group-allegedly-hacked- romney-tax-records- franklin-firm

Anonymous group allegedly hacked Romney tax records via Franklin firm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/06/secret-service-probing-claimed-theft-romney-tax-records-1m-hush-money-demand/

Secret Service probing claimed theft of Romney tax records, $1M hush money demand (hat tip to FReeper maggief)

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ACTION FREEPER ALERT: blast mail the above list/info to Congress, to print/broadcast media......do it now.

13 posted on 05/13/2013 3:20:18 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My Spidey-sense tells me that the dinosaur media is reporting on IRSgate because - while embarrassing - this scandal cannot conceivably be tied to either Obama or Hitlery. It speaks more to the corruption of government as a whole rather than personal corruption, and the IRS is an easy scapegoat because no one likes them.

The dinosaur media is ignoring Benghazigate because there are several events which increasingly point to direct personal involvement by both Obama and Hillary... and these events are not only legacy-wreckers, they may be prosecutable offenses as well.


14 posted on 05/13/2013 3:23:13 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Cheerio

No they can’t. To much more of this and there will be shortage of rope in DC.


15 posted on 05/13/2013 3:25:26 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Don Corleone

>>>Scare enough of the sheeple and Obama rules for life.<<<

Ask Hosni Mubarak how well that worked for him. Obama would end up the same way; an arrogant and unrepentent man impotently staring out from a cage in a courtroom.


16 posted on 05/13/2013 3:25:56 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: Don Corleone

“Because it goes to the question of motive”

Just another reason to buy another few guns and any ammunition you can get your hands on.

Just in case.


17 posted on 05/13/2013 3:26:45 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mandatory BB Guns for 10 Year Old Boys would solve most of America's problems.)
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18 posted on 05/13/2013 3:31:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“How many OTHER agencies”...

In the early Tea Party days..before one of the larger countrywide coordinated rallies, Big Sis issued and edict that detailed “terroristic groups”.

Although it didn’t specify TP..it alluded to political rallies and as I recall specifically targeted anti-abortion rallies.

Needless to say, I would have crawled over broken glass on my hands and knees to attend. I had a real Jeanne Fritichie (sp?) moment. “Shoot if you must this old gray head...”


19 posted on 05/13/2013 3:32:16 PM PDT by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In short, remember when one of the Articles of Impeachment against President Nixon was using the IRS to go after political enemies? Well, in this case the the IRS DID harass Obama's political enemies, and this may be the tip of the iceberg of the the widespread abuse by the IRS on behest of the Obama Administration.
20 posted on 05/13/2013 3:32:35 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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