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Ralph Reed: No Change of Position on Boy Scouts
NewsMax ^ | 5/14/13 | Jim Meyers

Posted on 05/14/2013 3:29:38 PM PDT by Jean S

Faith and Freedom Coalition founder Ralph Reed is vigorously refuting a published report that he sought to help the Boy Scouts of America persuade Christian leaders to back a proposal to allow gays to become scouts.

Current BSA policy is to bar membership to "open or avowed homosexuals." But a proposal to be voted on this month, supported by some leading BSA officials, would permit gays to become members while maintaining a ban on gay adult volunteers.

"Most conservative Christians oppose the proposal, so the Boy Scouts of America have engaged a high-profile advisor to help them make their case: Ralph Reed," states an article on the WORLD website of God's World Publications.

Reed, the report states, has arranged meetings and conference calls between "Christian conservative leaders and BSA officials who support the pro-gay resolution."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts
See hit piece on Reed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3019282/posts

1 posted on 05/14/2013 3:29:38 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: MacNaughton

ping


2 posted on 05/14/2013 3:31:25 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: 17th Miss Regt; 1riot1ranger; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 3catsanadog; 50sDad; Abby4116; ...

Ralph Reed denies supporting gay scouts ping!


3 posted on 05/14/2013 3:37:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: Jean S

Reed is solid. Screw the left!

LLS


4 posted on 05/14/2013 3:39:26 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: MacNaughton

Second ping, you’ve suddenly become very quiet about this.


5 posted on 05/14/2013 3:45:36 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’m with you.No way this side of hell or Washington DC do I believe Reed would support fags anywhere near the boy scouts.


6 posted on 05/14/2013 3:48:58 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Jean S

More proof that America’s opinion spewers and our central socialist God-less government (pablum to the uneducated, simple-minded, tattooed, unwashed, pierced voters) are the main enemies of the family, our children and our dying nation.

Time to roll.


7 posted on 05/14/2013 3:52:08 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Jean S
I just happened to go to the BSA site and skimmed the 58 page presentation on their proposal to change their position to include gay scouts. My perception of what I did stop and read was an organization short on leadership and more concerned with management (I.e. risk assessment). The reason I was at the site was to learn what is needed to start a troop at our church - I believe I will wait and see how the BSA votes before I go any further. I cannot for the life of me see anyway to propose starting one if they change their policy.
8 posted on 05/14/2013 4:07:44 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Jean S

Hmmm...but he took money to facilitate conversations between evangelical leaders and those pushing this immorality within the Scouts. Conversations intended to try to convince said leaders to go along. Didn’t he?

I couldn’t care less what his “position” is. Anybody can say they have a “position.”


9 posted on 05/14/2013 4:11:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are making too many assumptions, like him receiving money. I won’t answer your assumptions.

Don’t you have a campaign to run? Shoo!


10 posted on 05/14/2013 4:17:11 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Maybe the writer confused Ralph with Rex Reed.


11 posted on 05/14/2013 4:21:29 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Jean S

I’m not assuming a thing. I’m just trying to find out what is really going on. In the other article they quoted him as admitting receiving money for facilitating these calls and meetings.


12 posted on 05/14/2013 4:33:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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To: Jean S
5 Second ping, you’ve suddenly become very quiet about this.

Well, yeah. Had to go away, but now I am back.

1. Went back and looked at the 2/05/2013 transcript of Ralph Reed's interview on NewsMax.com. Yes, he did say it would be a mistake for the BSA to change its membership policy to include open homosexuals. The very next day BSA national announced it was suspending the National Executive Board meeting vote on the policy and would conduct further study, which of course led to the "Voice of the Scout" survey distritubed in early March.

2. Reed's comments about only ~30% of the chartered units would have to be worried regarding a membership change because they are chartered to non-churches is totally bogus - either deliberately misleading, hopelessly naive, or totally disengaged from Scouting. The pro-homo denominations will not even blink and welcome the pederasts. At some point these homosexual adult volunteers will come into contact with other scouts not in their units. It is unavoidable if your unit goes to district events or summer camp.

3. Right now The National Council helps cover some of the legal bills for units which are sued for neglect because a pederast preyed upon Scouts. This bank account is limited. The opposition knows it and is playing the long game to bankrupt the BSA.

4. Others on the original thread pointed out the problematic relationship Ralph Reed had with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramhoff and so-called conservative activist Grover Norquist (real concern that he is in bed with Islamists). Yes, maybe not fair to convict by association, but you are judged by the company you keep.

5. Based upon what others have posted on my original thread and this one, I think it is safe to say that you have been "schooled" regarding WORLD magazine.

13 posted on 05/14/2013 6:05:32 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: EternalVigilance

Matthew Continetti was onto Reed nearly EIGHT years ago in his Weekly Standard article entitled “A Decade of Reed:One Republican’s Long, Lucrative March through the Institutions”.
I am surprised anyone takes him seriously.
He is a non-entity.
I suggest everyone read it.


14 posted on 05/14/2013 7:07:23 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine

I had his number by 1998.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 7:29:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Then why would he want to “faciliate” discussion between those who don’t want fags in the BSA and those who do? That part doesn’t make sense.

....maybe I should read the article!....

Thanks for the ping.


16 posted on 05/14/2013 9:38:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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A bit more info in the article and some comments, including MacNaughton's, about what's going on with the BSA and Reed.

17 posted on 05/14/2013 10:19:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

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18 posted on 05/14/2013 10:21:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, I think I was onto him pretty much the first time I saw him...about that same time....I mean, just look at him.
“Professional” “Conservative”, whose only “issues”, handily,
were marginal ones permanently ensconced in the “social”.
The worst thing about him is that he seemed to embody the kind of “conservative” that the Left lusts for-—the evangelical-types who the Left is perfectly ready to characterize as TYPICAL of the entire range of their “enemies”. As we know, he is anything BUT.


19 posted on 05/15/2013 8:43:08 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: little jeremiah
Then why would he want to “faciliate” discussion between those who don’t want fags in the BSA and those who do? That part doesn’t make sense.

Got to agree with you there. I'm smelling fishwrap...

20 posted on 05/15/2013 9:22:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: Jean S; MacNaughton
I know what World Magazine is. It’s a solidly evangelical publication whose editor, Marvin Olasky, and longtime publisher, Joel Belz, are both elders in the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America). While there are a lot of Freepers who didn’t like George Bush’s views on “compassionate conservatism” or “faith based initiatives,” those ideas were drawn in large measure from Olasky’s interaction with Bush during his time as Texas governor.

What I want to know now is where Ralph Reed stands on the Boy Scout decision. If he’s going to defend what the Boy Scouts just did, he’ll be acting against the stances of the Assemblies of God and Southern Baptist Convention.

I don’t think Reed is foolish enough to try that. We’ll find out soon.

21 posted on 05/25/2013 12:58:55 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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