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Ex-NASA scientist says re-industrializing with fossil fuels makes no sense
EurActiv ^ | Published 15 May 2013 | Updated 16 May 2013 | Arthur Neslen

Posted on 05/16/2013 1:35:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A noted climatologist and recently-retired NASA research chief has entered the EU’s energy policy debate, with a warning that any re-industrialization strategy that increases fossil fuels use can only be short-term, irrational and economically wasteful.

In a wide-ranging interview with EurActiv, James Hansen branded the EU’s Emissions Trading System (ETS) “ineffectual” and flawed, and accused energy firms of preferring government bribes over investments in clean technology. Hansen, whose Congressional testimony on climate change in 1988 first popularized the issue in the United States, also said that approving the proposed Keystone XL pipeline to bring tar sands fuel from Canada to Texas would “gravely tarnish” President Barack Obama’s legacy. …

“We do not make fossil fuels companies pay for their effects on human health, or on the climate, and we even subsidize them,” he said, “so it is a very short term argument to say that you should re-industrialize in a way that uses more fossil fuels. It doesn’t even make economic sense from a long-term perspective,” he argued. “By any rational assessment, those fuels need to be left in the ground.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangehoax; energy; envirowackos; europeanunion; eussr; fossilfuels; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; jameshansen
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To: cuban leaf

Oh, the “hate science” talking point. It’s they that hate science and prefer dogma; when their dogma doesn’t stand up to the scientific method, they start in with their “destroy the infidel” rhetoric.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 1:51:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This guy is a total left wing hack.


22 posted on 05/16/2013 1:52:07 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is dead. Let's not pretend otherwise.)
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To: cork

Think one of Jupiter or Saturn’s moons has a methane (natural gas) atmosphere. Fossils weren’t the source of that. Hydrocarbons have been found in plumes of gas from Mars. Seems that these chemicals we call fossil fuels are noticeably abundant in the universe.


23 posted on 05/16/2013 1:58:12 PM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: cuban leaf

DEEP HOT BIO-SPHERE ping!!!!!!!


24 posted on 05/16/2013 2:01:37 PM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: Olog-hai

Paying any attention to this pseudo-scientist makes no sense.


25 posted on 05/16/2013 2:01:52 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Olog-hai

“Ex-NASA scientist says re-industrializing with fossil fuels makes no sense”

NASA ex-scientist says re-industrializing with fossil fuels makes no sense

There, fixed it.


26 posted on 05/16/2013 2:02:57 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Olog-hai

Using his rationale perhaps he could start by turning off his air conditioner and discontinuing driving and flying. He is personally consuming resources and adding no value to society. Perhaps he should stop eating as well.


27 posted on 05/16/2013 2:03:33 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Olog-hai

“with a warning that any re-industrialization strategy that increases fossil fuels use can only be short-term, irrational and economically wasteful”

So, now, we have a retired NASA scientist who is an expert at industrialization....

Me thinks he has inhaled too much rocket fuel or stayed at a Holiday Inn last night....


28 posted on 05/16/2013 2:03:34 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m really looking forward to the day I get to read James Hansen’s obituary. It’ll be champagne popping time, for sure!


29 posted on 05/16/2013 2:03:55 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: MCF

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30 posted on 05/16/2013 2:05:08 PM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: Olog-hai
Libtards prefer the "reverse scientific method":

  1. Draw the conclusions.
  2. Cherry-pick data which suppoprts them.
  3. If little or nothing can be found, then manufacture said data.
  4. Ignore or discard any data which doesn't support the conclusions. It always starts with the conclusions.

31 posted on 05/16/2013 2:05:38 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Olog-hai

Paying the time of day to EX-NASA scientists makes no sense.

So he graduated from the super advanced shop class at MIT or wherever. Doesn’t mean he knows a damn thing about the real world.


32 posted on 05/16/2013 2:05:44 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

We should re-industrialize using muscle power from draft animals and humans yoked to machines. After all, it worked so well for thousands of years before the Industrial Revolution.


33 posted on 05/16/2013 2:09:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: shibumi

Makes plenty of sense to the socialists in Europe, though.


34 posted on 05/16/2013 2:10:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: PGR88; Olog-hai
What the hell does “re-industrializing” mean?

It's nonsense, but its use is very telling. The target of the alarmists has always been industrialization and industrialized society itself. These people have the belief that the human race is destroying the planet by the very process of industrialization. They invented AGW theory as their silver bullet that explains how we have been destroying the planet and how we can "save" it.

To the extent the alarmists' plans have been implemented, Hanson and his ilk view it as "de-industrializing," that is first steps in reversing the industrial revolution. That is their real aim.

35 posted on 05/16/2013 2:11:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Vigilanteman

That’s assuming the European Union makes sense, first off. Hansen’s acting as the token American spouting the EU talking points to make all the other “ugly” Americans look bad.


36 posted on 05/16/2013 2:12:48 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Zhang Fei

I think we could get ships to erect tall poles on them and hang large pieces of cloth from them to catch the wind. Why haven’t we thought of that yet?


37 posted on 05/16/2013 2:14:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Olog-hai

I want liberals out of my gas tank. How much fuel I use is a privatre matter between me and Exxon-Mobil.


38 posted on 05/16/2013 2:17:37 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
I think we could get ships to erect tall poles on them and hang large pieces of cloth from them to catch the wind. Why haven’t we thought of that yet?

The word "re-industrialize" can't really be used to describe the process of trying to run the modern world without chemical power. I think the word this ex-NASA witch doctor is looking for is "de-industrialize".

39 posted on 05/16/2013 2:19:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Olog-hai
I love these guys. "Down with oil! Down with coal! Down with wood! Down with nuclear! We'll tear the industrial world down and rebuild it with...thingy!"

They're the deep thinkers. The rest is merely engineering.

40 posted on 05/16/2013 2:23:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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