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1 posted on 05/23/2013 9:13:01 AM PDT by blam
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I thought that interest rates would have risen and we would have some inflation by now. But I guess there’s a lot of other factors; no velocity and other countries worse than us.


2 posted on 05/23/2013 9:22:30 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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I believe that we will see both. The next major financial panic will cause a substantial deflationary wave first, and after that we will see unprecedented inflation as the central bankers and our politicians respond to the financial crisis.


Duh. Many people, including yours truly, have been saying this ever since the credit/housing bubble burst. Deflation followed by hyperinflation.

You can see an analogy of it in those russian youtube “crash compilation” videos. A car on a snowy road starts to slide sideways and the driver over-corrects, causing it to spin out in the OPPOSITE direction. It happens so fast that the inexperienced driver is caught completly by surprise when he must correct - often much faster - in the opposite direction.

And that’s the thing. By the time they notice we are entering inflation, it is already accelerating too fast for them to do anything about it. The “correction to prevent deflation” spins us wildly into hyperinflation.

It’s why you should be buying all the gold, silver and real estate you can get your hands on. Yes, that means PHYSICAL metals.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 9:24:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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When I turn 59 1/2 (avoid penalties), I will be liquidating a fairly large amount of my 401K and converting to physical junk silver. Problem is, I fear it might be too late. I turn 59 1/2 this July.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 9:26:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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The trade deficit is one of our biggest economic problems

Trade Deficit

We better off when it was growing and we're worse off with it shrinking, so the "problem" is that we want more of it?

5 posted on 05/23/2013 9:36:38 AM PDT by expat_panama
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You can have both.

Look at it this way:

Let’s say that in 2012 a new car was 50% of your $60,000 income.

Along comes monetary inflation (QE induced) and your income rised to $120,000 (all factors being equal). But the economy sucks (few people have jobs) and the rising prices have a psychological effect on buyers. The going rate of a car goes from $30k to $50k, a monetary increase, but a decrease in real value.


6 posted on 05/23/2013 9:40:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Both: hyperinflation of necessities and deflation of everything else, making it that much harder to earn enough to buy those necessities.

Doesn’t anyone read history anymore?


7 posted on 05/23/2013 9:47:19 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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The problems of the Fed’s excessive money creation, and how much “money leaves” the U.S. are both masked by what happens in the “shadow banking” system. Many of the practices of the shadow banking system alude the “monetary accouting” that the Fed can describe, in whole or in part.

While the Fed system permits a savings deposit of $100 to potentially put $1,000 dollars into the hands of borrowers, some “shadow banking” tools allow similar “turning water into wine”. One of them is the “repo” and not just the simple “repo” but the expansion of what a “repo” could do, to multiples of the same uses of the same collateral behind the repo.

With a repo a borrower puts up collateral in the form of securities (usually something very liquid like a Treasury note) and receives cash from a lender with an agreement to buy back the repo later (a day, or any set time period, even years).

Since the lender owns a very liquid security, the lender can do another repo with it, raising more cash to play with - now the same asset is suppose to stand behind maybe twice its value. The process can be repeated as often as a lender is willing to take the risk of creating another debt against the same collateral-asset again. This is known as rehypothecation, a fancy term for what basically creates a money multiplier just like fractional-fiat money banking. This is generating additional trillons of “new money” and most of it is processed and held out of the traditional banking system.

In other words, there is more excess “money printing” going on than just what can be discerned in the Fed and Treasury figures.

And some of the extra dollars leaving U.S. shores to buy assets abroad? some of it is being generated from the shadow banking system.

If deflation hits it will be even bigger than the author suggests because the actual debt bubble (lending) is even bigger than the official figures suggest.


11 posted on 05/23/2013 10:10:14 AM PDT by Wuli
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12 posted on 05/23/2013 10:15:33 AM PDT by PGR88
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Disinflation/deflation and Inflation will continue.

The former in assets, the latter in consumables.

Overall, deflation first followed by inflation.

My read is that the eventual inflation will not be hyper or even as high as the Carter years. It will signal the end of the bad times. I expect inflation to begin around 2020.

Until then it looks like we will grind along as we are now, with little upturns and slide-backs.

Barring some major disaster and-/or war.


13 posted on 05/23/2013 10:29:29 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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"See, I'm actually higher off the water than before!"


14 posted on 05/23/2013 10:41:33 AM PDT by The Duke
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That’s a site that sells gold, silver and emergency food. The article is written so as to sell some of their products, and as such has no credibility.


19 posted on 05/23/2013 11:27:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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Finally someone mentions deflation and collapsing monetary velocity... Deflation is far, far, far worse than inflation. Deflation is what Bernanke fears most and why the fed won’t tighten too fast.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 11:35:08 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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