Skip to comments.The Stingers of Benghazi: Was the U.S. engaged in gun-running?
Posted on 05/24/2013 2:47:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Story creeping into the mainstream???
And how will we ever know? Congressional hearings?
Benghazi was a secret CIA prison. You know, the kind Obama DETESTS!! 37 evacuees, some prisoners? 'Prisoners' would be a good motive for the attack. Delayed FBI arrival to keep them from finding this out; Lotsa gray bars!
When planes quit dropping out of the sky, or start avoiding the region completely, whichever comes first.
Ping, things we knew in October , does anyone still have a copy of ambassador Stevens itinerary ? It lists the shipping company he met with. I did not save it and it is no longer available on line. I might be able to get it to the reporter.
I have the name somewhere.
What could be more important than GIVING al Qaeda
THOUSANDS of MANPADs?
After all, Obama-the-Undocumented has DEEMED
the Enemy is the Internet, Jews and Christians.
National Review is one of the pillars of conservative media — which means, unfortunately, that it’s not mainstream. Gonna have to give this one a little time.
Stingers? Not SA-7s or SA-16s? That would really be bad juju, since Stingers are US-made and the top of the line. If we gave those things to the nad guys, this is nothing less than treason.
Possibly this newest whistle blower has the answer.
This story was on the Drudge Report and it is being reported all over the web. According to retired 4 Star Admiral James Lyons, Benghazi was going to be used to stage a false kidnapping of Ambassador J. Christian Stevens using a friendly group of Libyan rebels. This event was to be staged to enhance Obama’s approval before the elections. It was Obama’s Kabuki theater for the zero info voters. Those planned to abduct Stevens, were going to ask for for Omar Abdel Rahman an international prisoner, known as the Blind Sheik, in exchange for the ambassador. Obama was to stage a successful negotiation, get Ambassador Stevens released from the “kidnapers” and have the Blind Sheik released in exchange to the “hostage takers.”
According to Admiral Lyons, this effort fell apart when the CIA Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty refused a stand down order and went in to the embassy on their own to protect the ambassador using force. Their action killed many of the rebels. The rebels were not prepared for any kind of armed response to their phony kidnapping effort. They were enraged at this action and thought they were betrayed by Obama. They decided to stage a massive attack on the embassy in retaliation. The carnage that ensued was a result. If this report is true, Obama is toast.
Missile Q ping.
Benghazi Ping Alert!
We knew this was coming since way back in the Fall.
It’s starting to hit the fan!
Answers the question:
Why didn’t 0bama send Air Cover?
I think this theory has been discredited.
Is the POTUS a Muzzie Bro. enabler?
Better stock up on popcorn.
Then there was the whole Turkish Ambassador visit just prior to the festivities.
She's parsing words. She wasn't asked directly about whether the arms were being directed TO the Syrian Al Qaeda (rebels) or THROUGH Turkey. She narrowly denied TO Turkey.
The fact is that the Benghazi station was NOT a consulate, but an CIA station. Maybe that is why the Republicans are going easy on this.
How, where, who, why? Details, please.
The list, at your discretion.
Hillary Clinton, when asked about her and obama/soetoro`s possible TREASON.
Senator, youll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I do not know.
There it is, I DON`T KNOW .Same line Holder used over 50 times.
They werem’t just going to Syria. They were going to hamas in Gaza through the mb in Egypt..
I can already hear the lies and cover ups when commercial airplanes start falling out of the sky. These morons made the skies much more dangerous for citizens and the military.
Legs at last
Anyone want to bet if there were warrants applied for this week of Roger L. Simon’s, his parents, children, inlaws friends and neighbors emails, phone records, tax records, credit card activities?
BTTT. News of the Week, in a packed week.
NRO: Don’t publish on a Friday afternoon before a long weekend.
Also with the SA-7 featured above the target must be silhouetted against bare sky for the seeker to "see" the target. So if I'm a hilltop rebel trying to fire on a helicopter approaching from low in a valley using the SA-7 Grail, then forget it, the missile sees nothing, since there is a mountain behind him.
But After Reagan's air attack against Khadaffi (much later it turned out his daughter was not killed in the raid, as he'd claimed for many years), Khadaffi imported newer Soviet AA missiles, also, like the SA-24 Grinch, below, and THIS is the real problem:
It flies at Mach 2, reaches up above 10,000 feet, and the aircraft needn't be seen against empty sky for targeting. Also the Grinch needn't score a physical hit for detonation --it also comes equipped with proximity fusing, so if senses an impending bypass, it will still trigger. Also if there is remaining fuel, this, too, will be blown in the explosion as a kicker. Even with jamming and flares, about one in four Grinches will score a hit, generally.
What type of success might it get against commercial aircraft in their current form...? The Obama Admin does NOT want to talk about this at all.
The CIA wouldn’t give anti-aircraft missiles to the opposition in Libya, so the State Department did? Who was in charge of the State Department then? Hillary Clinton. Can any department of the federal government hand out weapons to foreigners? For example, can the Federal Wildlife Service hand out submarines to somebody in Finland? Is there adult supervision in this Obama administration? Why did Hillary Clinton feel the need to override the CIA in Libya? Is she that arrogant? Or is she that greedy? Follow the money. She’s receiving at least $14,000,000 from a book publisher to write another book? Bulls**t! She’s getting paid off! She has more blood on her hands than that piece of s**t. In London.
“Gun running” is an incorrect term. Gun running implies the sale of weapons for personal profit. This was not what was happening in Libya. The money from gun running is peanuts to the Clintons, Obama and Soros. I think we need a new phrase. Let’s call it “GOVERNMENT CHANGE FOR PERSONAL PROFIT”. The Democrats yammered about Iran/Contra for years, but everybody knew that was about defeating the communists in our back yard. This...this killing in the Middle East for profit? How do the Democrats justify that? Our President and Secretary of State can be bought? It’s OK for the Democrats to use American taxpayer paid Soldiers and weapons in Libya to overthrow the Libyan government for a payday for the Democrats? Now, do you see why that are fighting so hard to keep the focus off Libya? It can kill the Democrat party.
I can already hear the lies and cover ups when commercial airplanes start falling out of the sky.
If this is true, and the the Obama administration provided Stinger missiles (or weapons of any kind) to Al-Qaeda, this would be the equivalent of FDR providing weapons to the Nazis during WW II. How will the Dems spin that one?
To: P-Marlowe; Raptor; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; bigheadfred; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; betty boopThey keep asking why the US gov't is trying to keep this quiet.
The 20,000 missing MANPADS: It was on Free Republic at about the time these men were killed on about 9/12.
Jennifer Griffin reported again yesterday what was discussed on FR over a month ago. Obama allowed the Muslim Brotherhood and their al quaeda pals access to 20,000 manpads, one man anti-aircraft, shoulder-fired missiles with capabilities of defeating current commerical counter-measures. I know the article is here on Free Republic because I participated in the discussion....and I think Lancey did, and I think you did too. (See below)
The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQLj6krm
20,000 missing manpads can bring commercial air traffic to a halt, just about world wide.
THIS is what Obama is trying to hide. It is plausible to assume THIS is what led to NO rescue for these men, and why they were WANTED dead.
A media report on Obama's 20,000 missing anti-aircraft missiles has the ability to bring down Obama.
68 posted on 10/27/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzinsA media report on Obama's 20,000 missing anti-aircraft missiles has the ability to bring down Obama.
The Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms will do everything in their power to help the African communist spike the story.
And by the way, don’t be the slightest bit surprised if “Hurricane Sandy” is little more than a drenching rainstorm. It amazes me how, last week, the storm was headed safely out to sea, toward Greenland. I saw that weather forecast with my own two eyeballs. Then the story changed.
My gut assessment completely agrees with your post here. The 20,000 or thereabouts MANPADS given to “Libyan rebels” during the “arab spring” in Libya is almost certainly the dead body in this mystery.
I recall that during this arming of Libyan rebels many of us here at FR were quite angry and cautioning about the foolhardiness of that action since it was clear that AlQ was clearly part of the “rebels”. I am getting more confident that we were accurate, unfortunately.
Again, this is something that the administration does not dare to breath a word about.
117 posted on 10/27/2012 2:01:58 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))To: xzins
Jeepers. Thank you so much for your insights, dear brother in Christ!
Sorry - didn’t mean to be cryptic. Jonrick46 mentioned in his post earlier on this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3023516/posts?page=11#11 about the theory that possibly there was a plan for a fake kidnapping and then it was to work out as a trade to release the “Blind Sheik”.
That theory has been discussed here on FR, but it seems from what I’ve been reading that the gun running theory described here in this article is much more plausible and there is a lot more evidence supporting it. If you are on Mesta’s ping list you’ve probably read a lot of the details of that.
This is National Review. Not yet breaking through to the MSM. When it does, they’ll replace it as if it was some big revelation, the Obama admin will treat it as if everyone knew this was the case all along.
Kabuki theater will be on full display.
Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
I think the theory adds to the total picture. Why would there be a reduction in security at the consulate? The reduction was part of the plan to “kidnap” Stevens. There is the running of weapons to these rebels and the effort to get those weapons back. The way to enhance the weapons retrieval effort was the offer to have the “Blind Sheik” set free. Obama was to appear as the hero just in time for the elections. At the same time, he would give the radical Islams what they have long wanted, Omar Abdel Rahman. So, I give two videos:
I think both the weapons retrieval operations and the trade for Omar Abdel Rahman using the fake kidnapping of Stevens as part of the same equation.
Stevens’ mission in Benghazi was to buy back Stinger missiles (MANPADS) from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department to overthrow the Gaddafi regime “on the cheap.” In Libya there were 21,000 MANPADS lost. These are weapons that are very dangerous in the hands of these al-Qaida-led rebels. These are the advanced portable antiaircraft and antitank heat-seeking, shoulder-fired missiles. These weapons were being moved in through Turkey by US CIA operatives. Such weapons would have no problem taking down a passenger aircraft anyplace any time. Just the arming of al-Qaida-led rebels with these weapons is treason enough in my book.
It my theory that to sweeten the deal, they were going to throw in Omar Abdel Rahman to enhance the weapons buy-back program. These weapons were then going to the al-Qaida-led rebels in Syria. This complex script involved the fake kidnapping, the boost to Obama’s falling poll ratings and a phony blame of the internet for a poor video about Mo. It was a house of cards and I am hoping the whole thing falls down to get Zer0 out of office.
Amazing how the 20,000 missing MANIPADS story was so quickly pushed away from the news cycles...
Pardon my skepticism.
On Drudge? I look at Drudge several times a day and don't recall this. "All over the web." Really? Got some credible links to back this up?
Anyone who calls Russian MANPADS "Stingers" is a MORON.
Anyone who repeats it without correction is an even BIGGER MORON. This is a really embarrasing article from National REview.
A dirty little secret is that MANPADS aren't particularly effective against commercial airliners; the warheads are too small. The majority of commercial airliners that have been hit with them have survived (and they have mostly been smaller aircraft in Africa.)
You mostly take out one engine and commercial airliners are designed to survive the loss of one engine.
Actually they're not particularly effective against anything other than helicopters.
Wouldn’t surprise me as Obama used the IRS to influence the election. But to corroborate this story would be nigh impossible, unless whistleblowers start to come forth with records and evidence.