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The Stingers of Benghazi: Was the U.S. engaged in gun-running?
National Review ^ | 05/24/2013 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 05/24/2013 2:47:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
“To Turkey? . . . Nobody’s ever raised that with me,” Clinton responded.

She's parsing words. She wasn't asked directly about whether the arms were being directed TO the Syrian Al Qaeda (rebels) or THROUGH Turkey. She narrowly denied TO Turkey.

21 posted on 05/24/2013 3:47:53 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

The fact is that the Benghazi station was NOT a consulate, but an CIA station. Maybe that is why the Republicans are going easy on this.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 3:48:51 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: SeekAndFind
"During this time, a large number of weapons, including anti-aircraft missiles, were leaving Libya and arriving in Turkey en route to Syrian rebels — and the CIA had personnel in both countries assigned to monitor and assist the arms shipments."
23 posted on 05/24/2013 3:50:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: jonrick46
Story sounds plausible.
24 posted on 05/24/2013 3:50:55 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: boxlunch

How, where, who, why? Details, please.


25 posted on 05/24/2013 3:51:06 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: Nachum

The list, at your discretion.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 3:55:40 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
YOU BETCHA!!!

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 4:00:18 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: SeekAndFind

Hillary Clinton, when asked about her and obama/soetoro`s possible TREASON.

“Senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I do not know.”

There it is, I DON`T KNOW .Same line Holder used over 50 times.


28 posted on 05/24/2013 4:02:34 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Uncle Miltie

They werem’t just going to Syria. They were going to hamas in Gaza through the mb in Egypt..


29 posted on 05/24/2013 4:02:49 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I can already hear the lies and cover ups when commercial airplanes start falling out of the sky. These morons made the skies much more dangerous for citizens and the military.


30 posted on 05/24/2013 4:04:15 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: SeekAndFind

Legs at last


31 posted on 05/24/2013 4:09:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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sfl


32 posted on 05/24/2013 4:12:01 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: peeps36

Anyone want to bet if there were warrants applied for this week of Roger L. Simon’s, his parents, children, inlaws friends and neighbors emails, phone records, tax records, credit card activities?


33 posted on 05/24/2013 4:12:34 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: VRWCarea51

BTTT. News of the Week, in a packed week.

NRO: Don’t publish on a Friday afternoon before a long weekend.


34 posted on 05/24/2013 4:25:55 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: SeekAndFind
The total load of 21,000 MANPADS included mostly SA-7's --old and very vulnerable to such simple countermeasures as flares. BELOW:

Also with the SA-7 featured above the target must be silhouetted against bare sky for the seeker to "see" the target. So if I'm a hilltop rebel trying to fire on a helicopter approaching from low in a valley using the SA-7 Grail, then forget it, the missile sees nothing, since there is a mountain behind him.

But After Reagan's air attack against Khadaffi (much later it turned out his daughter was not killed in the raid, as he'd claimed for many years), Khadaffi imported newer Soviet AA missiles, also, like the SA-24 Grinch, below, and THIS is the real problem:

It flies at Mach 2, reaches up above 10,000 feet, and the aircraft needn't be seen against empty sky for targeting. Also the Grinch needn't score a physical hit for detonation --it also comes equipped with proximity fusing, so if senses an impending bypass, it will still trigger. Also if there is remaining fuel, this, too, will be blown in the explosion as a kicker. Even with jamming and flares, about one in four Grinches will score a hit, generally.

What type of success might it get against commercial aircraft in their current form...? The Obama Admin does NOT want to talk about this at all.

35 posted on 05/24/2013 4:38:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind

The CIA wouldn’t give anti-aircraft missiles to the opposition in Libya, so the State Department did? Who was in charge of the State Department then? Hillary Clinton. Can any department of the federal government hand out weapons to foreigners? For example, can the Federal Wildlife Service hand out submarines to somebody in Finland? Is there adult supervision in this Obama administration? Why did Hillary Clinton feel the need to override the CIA in Libya? Is she that arrogant? Or is she that greedy? Follow the money. She’s receiving at least $14,000,000 from a book publisher to write another book? Bulls**t! She’s getting paid off! She has more blood on her hands than that piece of s**t. In London.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 5:25:13 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

“Gun running” is an incorrect term. Gun running implies the sale of weapons for personal profit. This was not what was happening in Libya. The money from gun running is peanuts to the Clintons, Obama and Soros. I think we need a new phrase. Let’s call it “GOVERNMENT CHANGE FOR PERSONAL PROFIT”. The Democrats yammered about Iran/Contra for years, but everybody knew that was about defeating the communists in our back yard. This...this killing in the Middle East for profit? How do the Democrats justify that? Our President and Secretary of State can be bought? It’s OK for the Democrats to use American taxpayer paid Soldiers and weapons in Libya to overthrow the Libyan government for a payday for the Democrats? Now, do you see why that are fighting so hard to keep the focus off Libya? It can kill the Democrat party.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 5:36:48 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: peeps36

I can already hear the lies and cover ups when commercial airplanes start falling out of the sky.


Passengers can’t be silenced. The only way to be sure if jihadis are succeeding in their aviation blackmail is if flights start staying at 30K - EVERYBODY can’t cruise at 30K’ - feet and above or routes are changed radically.


38 posted on 05/24/2013 5:42:22 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SeekAndFind
Earlier this week, Roger L. Simon of PJ Media broke a story with shocking revelations, contending that slain U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens was in Benghazi on September 11 to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups that had been originally provided to them by the U.S. State Department.

If this is true, and the the Obama administration provided Stinger missiles (or weapons of any kind) to Al-Qaeda, this would be the equivalent of FDR providing weapons to the Nazis during WW II. How will the Dems spin that one?

39 posted on 05/24/2013 5:54:52 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: SeekAndFind; P-Marlowe; Raptor; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; bigheadfred; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ...
Roger Simon "broke" last week what was broken and broadcast by Fox's Jennifer Griffin about a year ago, and was discussed on FR at different times. Here is one sample of that discussion:

To: P-Marlowe; Raptor; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; bigheadfred; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
They keep asking why the US gov't is trying to keep this quiet.

The 20,000 missing MANPADS: It was on Free Republic at about the time these men were killed on about 9/12.

Jennifer Griffin reported again yesterday what was discussed on FR over a month ago. Obama allowed the Muslim Brotherhood and their al quaeda pals access to 20,000 manpads, one man anti-aircraft, shoulder-fired missiles with capabilities of defeating current commerical counter-measures. I know the article is here on Free Republic because I participated in the discussion....and I think Lancey did, and I think you did too. (See below)

The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQLj6krm

20,000 missing manpads can bring commercial air traffic to a halt, just about world wide.

THIS is what Obama is trying to hide. It is plausible to assume THIS is what led to NO rescue for these men, and why they were WANTED dead.

A media report on Obama's 20,000 missing anti-aircraft missiles has the ability to bring down Obama.

68 posted on 10/27/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)


To: xzins
A media report on Obama's 20,000 missing anti-aircraft missiles has the ability to bring down Obama.

The Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms will do everything in their power to help the African communist spike the story.

100 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard

To: xzins

And by the way, don’t be the slightest bit surprised if “Hurricane Sandy” is little more than a drenching rainstorm. It amazes me how, last week, the storm was headed safely out to sea, toward Greenland. I saw that weather forecast with my own two eyeballs. Then the story changed.

101 posted on 10/27/2012 11:20:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard

To: xzins

My gut assessment completely agrees with your post here. The 20,000 or thereabouts MANPADS given to “Libyan rebels” during the “arab spring” in Libya is almost certainly the dead body in this mystery.

I recall that during this arming of Libyan rebels many of us here at FR were quite angry and cautioning about the foolhardiness of that action since it was clear that AlQ was clearly part of the “rebels”. I am getting more confident that we were accurate, unfortunately.

Again, this is something that the administration does not dare to breath a word about.

117 posted on 10/27/2012 2:01:58 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))

To: xzins

Jeepers. Thank you so much for your insights, dear brother in Christ!

129 posted on 10/27/2012 8:41:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl


40 posted on 05/24/2013 6:37:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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