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Boy Scouts of America Should Drop ‘to God’ and ‘Morally Straight’ From Oath
http://familypolicy.net ^ | May 23, 2013 | Family Policy Network

Posted on 05/25/2013 3:52:24 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: bert

I agree that it was a compromise in the name of pragmatism. And as I’ve stated many times in this thread, it was a bad mistake and I too will be interested to see the repercussions. I suspect if they don’t reverse it soon, it will start a faster decline in scouting.

Having said that, I don’t think it was anything but a mistake. A bad one, but not an evil intent on the part of the scouts. Oh sure, in any organization that big, there are some infiltrators who no doubt nudged it along, but I don’t think that’s the majority of those who ended up supporting it.


121 posted on 05/26/2013 10:08:56 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: wintertime

maybe so, useful idiots in a sense. That’s different than evil collaboration.


122 posted on 05/26/2013 10:10:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

compromise

So if they proposed molesting every kid in America for “educational” purposes, how would we compromise with that?

Compromising with evil, gets you evil.


123 posted on 05/26/2013 10:10:54 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Ah! Whether the intentions are evil or not the road still leads to hell.

There were many Useful Idiots voting for this BSA change. We should be very plain about that and the direction the Useful Idiots are leading the BSA and ( ultimately) our nation.

By the way....I’d even bet that many of those Useful Idiots voting for this change call themselves “conservative” and “Christian” and believe it.


124 posted on 05/26/2013 10:22:10 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: C. Edmund Wright

maybe so, useful idiots in a sense.
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Why the qualifier, “...in a sense...”?

They were and are Useful Idiots or they are not. If they are use the words that fit: Useful Idiot!


125 posted on 05/26/2013 10:35:38 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: GeronL
So if they proposed molesting every kid in America for “educational” purposes, how would we compromise with that?

No, but get back to me if they ever propose that why don't you.....

126 posted on 05/26/2013 10:38:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: wintertime
Why the qualifier, “...in a sense...”?

Because useful idiots is more appropo for those who happily go along with stupid/wrong/bad/ or evil - and I think the BSA folks who did this did so with great trepidation and mixed feelings and did so out of fear or out of feeling like they had no other choice. I don't agree with any of that, but it is not the classic "useful idiot" usage....thus...."in a sense."

127 posted on 05/26/2013 10:39:54 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: wintertime
Ah! Whether the intentions are evil or not the road still leads to hell.

That is true, but of course, if you had read carefully, or at all, you would realize that was NOT the issue at all.

128 posted on 05/26/2013 10:40:56 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
and I think the BSA folks who did this did so with great trepidation and mixed feelings and did so out of fear or out of feeling like they had no other choice.
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Ok! Then lets use the word that fits: Coward.

129 posted on 05/26/2013 10:45:47 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You know, I’m not going to take your bait. You know the FR bait, the one where you either go off the deep end or risk being accused of secretly down deep in some back room mysterious way of being a liberal collaborator. Just not biting, even though you keep dangling that out there. You’re just wrong.

But hey - you get back to me when you’ve run a great organization for over 100 years and then face 25 years of public pressure. Got it? Til then, cheerio......


130 posted on 05/26/2013 10:53:48 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I am not baiting you. I am merely speaking plainly.

Those who voted for the BSA change may indeed have been well meaning. They are Useful Idiots and/or cowards. They refused to stare down evil.

That is the fact with no “...In a sense...” about it.


131 posted on 05/26/2013 10:57:47 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: C. Edmund Wright
...you and others over reacted in an over the top way...

Oh?

You'll have to be more specific.

132 posted on 05/26/2013 11:15:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wintertime

you were doing both.


133 posted on 05/26/2013 11:39:44 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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