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Kentucky policeman shot and killed in apparent highway ambush
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Posted on 05/26/2013 5:49:24 PM PDT by Java4Jay

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To: Lurker; sickoflibs
I used to feel bad about this kind of thing. Now I just can’t.

yep, sadly, the first thing that popped in my mind upon hearing this story was i wonder who/how he jacked up a citizen ???

dui *checkpoint*...ntsb seatbelt *checkpoint*...arrest for a dimebag...etc...

121 posted on 05/27/2013 10:59:42 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: elcid1970

Indeed it is! I try to get there every summer, as that is where my Mom and brothers live, and my Dad is buried. It is a breath of fresh air for me, ie: freedom!!!


122 posted on 05/27/2013 8:46:32 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cardinal4

Bardstown isn’t near Harlan. So we can eliminate that crowd at least.


123 posted on 05/28/2013 6:09:44 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: All

UPDATE:

Funeral is being held now. The several main roads that we have are being shut down for the procession. LOTS of people lining the roads. 2,400 US flags were donated and line the route from Bardstown to Chapin.

Local (not official) word is that this was a drug related payback. They are looking at the investigations he participated in. His family is being watched as they consider them potentially at risk, also. Although we figure that the perpetrators would have done one of them first if they had intended to go after the family for revenge or to send a message. One guy in Louisville has donated $50K!!! to the reward fund, which I think is close to $100k now. For that much money someone will sell out.

In a town this size, it is always possible that someone could get to the killer before the police and save the need for a trial. I don’t think it is too likely, but certainly possible.


124 posted on 05/30/2013 10:01:50 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: cripplecreek; SLB

Shotguns used to be all that was allowed to hunt deer at Fort Knox. Don’t know if they even allow it any more.

Ping to a relatively local FReeper.


125 posted on 05/30/2013 10:27:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Here in Southern Michigan its shotgun only. North of Lansing rifles are allowed for deer hunting.


126 posted on 05/30/2013 10:31:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Makes sense. Southern Michigan is as flat as a pancake.


127 posted on 05/30/2013 10:38:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda Est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Depends on where you’re at. I’m in the Irish Hills so its not flat but go 20 miles south and its flat like north western Ohio.

I’m along the I94 corridor which is the heaviest population in the state.


128 posted on 05/30/2013 10:49:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; FreedomPoster; Stonewall Jackson; Squantos; Jeff Head; Lion Den Dan

I have been watching the live stream while at work. Very moving funeral (aren’t they all?) I have heard it was a work (drug) related payback. The city drug culture is starting to move into small towns across the country. Don’t have an answer.


129 posted on 05/30/2013 11:49:09 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: SLB
We have to take an old time attitude with law enforcement towards drug trafficking. Not likely to happen in this country until there is a larger train wreck that humbles the population as a whole and causes us all to revert back to our basic, fundamental moral values and defend them with gusto.

I know when I used to visit Taiwan on business that there was a huge sign when you entered the area after customs...in several languages...that said, "ILLEGAL DRUG TRAFICKING IS PROHIBITED ON PAIN OF DEATH."

...and they meant it.

IMHO, we need to empower our rural county Sheriff's Departments to proscute and go after Drug Traffickers with that same amount of gusto and deadly serious intent. Like they used to do for horse and cattle thiefs.

Back then, it was correctly calculated, in the more austere environement in which people lived, that a person taking your horse or cattle was a deadly threat to you and yours. Drug Trafficking is an equally deadly threat to us today.

I know it is hard for people to comprehend or accept right now...but a general "shoot on site," order for drug trafficking would go a long ways to cleaning it up...and the corruption that goes with it.

130 posted on 05/30/2013 12:09:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: brent13a; Lurker
brent13a, I have known Lurker for about 15 years on these boards. He is a U.S. Marine veteran who knows and understands the constitution, and what it means to take an oath to protect, defend, and bear true faigh and allegiance to the same.

When he sees, as we all do, more and more instances of those taking that oath, breaking it and trampling it under their feet, then he loses respect for them and what they represent.

In this case, I have it from someone in Kentucky, who is also a respected Freeper, that this incident stemmed from a work/drug payback issue. We will see if that comes out in the investigation.

But the trampling of the Constitution, and the corruption of power is happening all around us right now. We have an entire administration that encourages it by their own acts in the highest offices of the land.

So before you go off on Lurker, learn a few things about him. That's good advise for all of us...to hold our tongue and emotions a bit before we promounce judgement. I know it is good advise with respect to Lurker because I do know a quitre a few things about him which are wholly outside of your judgement of him on this thread.

131 posted on 05/30/2013 12:19:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SLB; Jeff Head
Earlier today I spoke with a friend of mine who manages a store in Bardstown and is acquaintances with several members of the Bardstown PD. Apparently Bardstown and US Highways 150 and 31E have become a major trafficking route for meth being manufactured in Central and Southeastern Kentucky that is bound for Louisville, Indianapolis, St. Louis, and Chicago. By taking this route they avoid I-75 and I-64, where the KSP has become quite adept at intercepting shipments.

Officer Ellis was the department's K-9 handler, so he was involved in a number of drug busts in the last couple of years. Apparently the Bardstown PD and State Police are all but positive that this was a revenge killing stemming from one of his drug busts.

132 posted on 05/30/2013 12:56:58 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Java4Jay

KY can be tuff and clannish

And corrupt

I don’t know the details but KY and TN hillbillies are from the same zygote


133 posted on 05/30/2013 12:59:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
By taking this route they avoid I-75 and I-64, where the KSP has become quite adept at intercepting shipments.

Dumb question perhaps, but how is this done?

134 posted on 05/30/2013 1:00:04 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

Not certain, but my guess would be profiling and/or informants. Although one would think that informants would also help with shipments on alternate routes.


135 posted on 05/30/2013 1:02:56 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Just curious.

Some of these folks obviously aren't too bright, but I doubt they are using the DOT Hazmat signage.


136 posted on 05/30/2013 1:05:34 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SLB

Dang .... This is just a drug related hit ?

Prayers for the officers family.

Stay safe SLB !


137 posted on 05/30/2013 1:09:51 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: nascarnation
Also another probable reason that they use the Bardstown route is the pretty strong local rumor that most of the Bardstown PD is on the take with these drug runners. I don't know if this is true of not, but I've heard it from multiple sources, most of whom live or work in Bardstown.

Apparently Officer Ellis was a straight shooter who'd made a number of enemies in the drug community over the years.

138 posted on 05/30/2013 1:30:11 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Interesting.
Meth seems to be much different than most other illegal drugs, the users seem to be massively debilitated pretty quickly.


139 posted on 05/30/2013 1:32:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation
Yep. An old high school buddy of mine is in the Kentucky State Penitentiary for the rest of his life because of meth. He'd gotten hooked on it back in the mid-90's (it was actually the first time I'd ever heard of it) and was looking for money to get his next fix when he ran into a lady who was looking for someone to knock off her husband. She'd taken out a $250K life insurance policy on him and offered Sam $10K to kill him.

Sam blew him away with a double barrel shotgun in the middle of a trailer park in broad daylight, then drove away in his own pickup with all of the neighbors writing down his tag number. He provided testimony against the black widow and in return the prosecutor took the death penalty off the table.

140 posted on 05/30/2013 1:40:30 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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