Posted on 05/29/2013 6:01:58 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
According to Town Hall:
“An Illinois Social Studies teacher faces disciplinary action for reminding his students of their Fifth Amendment rights when filling out a school survey on behavior…John Dryden was collecting the surveys before class when he noticed the students’ names were printed on them. He looked to see what was being asked and noticed questions about alcohol and drug use…Dryden told his students that they had a Constitutional right to not incriminate themselves by answering questions on the survey.”
As a result of Mr. Dryden informing his students about their basic Fifth Amendment rights, he is now facing disciplinary charges. Lucky for him, numerous people have risen to his defense.
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Raid his house and shoot his dog.
nowdays you just get an IRS audit.
then a personal email hack,maybe a drone later.
raid comes last.
“Raid his house and shoot his dog.”
Tax him to death.
If that don’t work, place a twist of crack on him during a traffic stop.
Burn that m********er down!!
‘The new normal’
It’s Illinois; the constitution was outlawed there long ago.
I do not want kids taking drugs but the teacher was right about this.
Anyone who sends their kids to a public school is guilty of child abuse
Better to wait for him to come out onto the driveway with a shotgun for protection, then pump him full of lead.
Silly teacher, the 5th only applies to IRS bosses.
The school’s not upset about teaching the 5th. They’re upset he’s teaching them the Constitution.
The school’s not upset about teaching the 5th. They’re upset he’s teaching them the Constitution.
If you think about it, these school officials would trash us if we said they didn’t respect our Constitution.
Then they do stuff like this, to prove we would be right.
And taser his dad.
Raid his refrigerator!
I’m not sure the teacher is, technically, correct here.
Unless the surveys were given on oath, under penalty of perjury and/or with explicit disclaimers that any information provided could/would be used against them, the students wouldn’t have the right to invoke the 5th.
However, had any of the students provided incriminating disclosures in the survey and those disclosures WERE used against them, they (and their parents) would have one heck of a good legal case (based in part on the 5th) against the school.
The right to remain silent applies every where except if you are under oath. In that case you may only take the fifth if the answer would indeed incriminate you.
I think the parents of Batavia, Illinois need to organize a town hall meeting with the Batavia School District Board of Education and the staff of Batavia High School. It seems to me if Batavia High School is willing to put forth an invasive survey and punish a teacher who does not sign on, then this school has other issues that needs to be discussed.
From one article I read, the survey was a result of concern over the number of teen suicides in the district. If there is a problem of suicides, it is of utmost importance that the parents, teachers and the school board meet together and start a process to answer the suicide problem and all other problems that need addressing. This is how responsible adults take on problems.
When they put social studies teacher through disciplinary action, it sends a message to all the parents that the school has an autocratic totalitarian management style as opposed to the the team builder style. When you are trying to create the best outcomes for kids, you want the parents involved and leadership that promotes participation rather than a top down one dimensional culture that creates subservience and crushes initiative. If the school’s management style does not promote an attitude conducive to an exchange of ideas and a team builder culture you have a recipe for disastrous outcomes, zero loyalty and high operational costs.
It makes me sad to see how much traction this is getting.
Shocking but true news:
high school students have limited almost meaningless constitutional rights.
As minors they can be drug tested denied free press in their papers and all manner of expectations common to adults.
These are not constitutional right violations and the teacher strikes me as an over zealous libertarian/anarchist.
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He was doing the kids and their parents a favor, IMO.
I wouldn’t want my child answering a survey with that kind of information. Would you?
Tells you where the public schools criteria really is.
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