Unapproved genetically modified wheat from Monsanto found in Oregon field

Washington Post ^ | May 30, 2013 | Steven Mufson

[ElkGroveDan]

ElkGroveDan: ‘scuse me, are you a troll ? You sound just like one ~

I'm a troll for making and argument that made you mad because you couldn't refute it? I'm a conservative and I have a degree in science. There is no place in my life for decisions based on fear of the unknown and emotion-driven policy debates.

[sand88]

some interesting stuff, but a gathering place for rabid leftists. All the criticisms of Obama is lukewarm.

Humans at Monsanto are doing evil things. It is corporate fascism at its worst.

Yet most at that site don't have the intellectual sophistication to understand that without governmental Power, Monsanto could not accomplish what it is now doing.

[Kevmo]

Wasn’t this the sort of thing that they guaranteed wouldn’t happen?

[okie01]

I'm sure it concerns you, but really that argument is the same one that greenies use against all technology, "Who knows what might happen?" Actually there is a vast knowledge base on plant genetics and there are no "mysteries" about genetic modification.

Virtually all -- if not all -- of our food crops are produced from hybrid seeds.

And what is genetic modification if not simply a more efficient means of producing a hybrid seed?

[Texas Fossil]

We have used Glycophosphate since it first cam on the market.

We used DowPon when it first came our back in the 1960’s. Then we used Ansar. Then RoundUp.

I know about the herbicides.

I am in the planting seed business. We grow, store, process and sell bulk planting seed from our operation at the farm. We have never grown GMO crops of any kind. None.

[ElkGroveDan]

Thank you.

[Ellendra]

There are lots of hybrids out there, but only a few crops are actual GMOs. Hybrids are the result of 2 varieties within the same species crossing (sort of like a labradoodle), and can happen naturally very easily. GMOs are the result of genes from one species being inserted into a completely different species. With the dog analogy, it would be more like a pittbull with squid tentacles.

Most likely, what he has are hybrids.

[TiaS]

If that seed does produce itself, Monsanto will claim ownership and demand the crop — if you are damaged financially so you are unable to pay it off — they can take your farm. Do you believe that?

[RedHeeler]

Regardless of this thread topic- what is going on with your- (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins)...Are you inane, PraiseTheLord?

[MarMema]

Ok try this one out instead....

the american conservative

[Hawk1976]

It isn’t a free-for-all. As pollination vectors, bees and other bugs, move from plant to plant looking for pollen, they don’t go straight from one frankenwheat to the next. They go from wheat to weed, to weed, to weed, to wheat, to weed, and as they do some genetic material is spread around and might get included into an adaptation by the weeds.

The weirder thing is this. While GMO crops are viable, they tend to return to being regular crops as the recessive genes fade over generations. If these thwere last tested in the early 2000’s then why are they popping up now. Monsanto or somebody is not being honest.

[MarMema]

•GMOs are now present in 75 to 80 percent of conventional processed food in the U.S., according to the Grocery Manufacturers Association.

[sand88]

thanks for the link...

[familyop]

"I’m reading Monsanto is evil, but what is evil about a food product being resistant to a weed killer?"

Several possible problems would be introduced, but here's one. No plant is immune to everything, but various, established plants have proven themselves each, in their locales. If a hybrid replaces, in essence, others of its kind over a large area of the earth, in sum, that hybrid could be wiped out over a large part of the earth after coming in contact with its previously unknown nemesis.

Generally, crossbreeding animals makes them stronger against diseases and other conditions. Doing the same with plants can sometimes do the opposite. ...mandated in warnings thousands of years ago.

Aw, here's another scenario that might be a little easier to digest. For example, we have a garden plant that presently does very well in a colder environment and matures much faster than it's cousins in warmer places. It's very important to a cold area at high elevations.

Then along comes a super plant similar to it--a plant that gives much higher yields, is very resistant to so-far known diseases, propagates itself efficiently to replace genes to its cold weather cousin. No more mountain variety. See?

Add to that, the company that designed the hybrid in a lab sues and shuts down every farm that grows its copyrighted super plant without first paying that company. Or even successfully lobbies for legislation mandating imprisonment for copyright violators. Or along comes the disease or other condition that efficiently kills the super plant>

[Cold Heat]

The question I would ask....

Is the wheat any good?

Does it have rat crap in it?

What a bunch of hooey....If the farmer planted the stuff during the test. it may still be growing in the ditches and borders (self seeding). If he cut any of it he would mix the two varieties. If he did not and is making a issue about the stuff that is still growing around the field, he should be looking at himself...He got paid to plant it by Monsanto.

If he saved some seed from the test thinking he would sell it to market years later and got caught, then he's a liar and a swindler. Monsanto would have no reason to sell him test seed.

So the answer is to use another weed killer that kills it. He probably asked Monsanto to provide it free since he did not kill it off the first time and they refused resulting in a major tiff over nothing.

The sad thing is.....I used to farm wheat when I was a kid. It make’s farmers look bad when they do this stuff and all this franken food nonsense is just ticking me off. They have been genetically manipulating grain for a couple hundred years, we are all still here....They just do it differently these days.

Maybe they should splice a human leg into the plant so that it kicks the farmers butt when he walks by.

[MarMema]

They said the Bt toxin would be destroyed by the stomach and pass out of the body.

but they were wrong

[familyop]

Rosa DeLauro’s (D-Conn.) husband conducted research for Monsanto. In the recent past, she introduced legislation (”Food Safety,” ect.) that would make small farming difficult and legally dangerous while not slowing down companies like Monsanto.

[montag813]

RoundUp is cheapest and safest grass weed killer out there and these clowns are playing with fire.

Sure, if you consider a listed side effect of "development of ambiguous sex organs in fetuses of exposed pregnant females" as "safe".

[PraiseTheLord]

” Regardless of this thread topic- what is going on with your- (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins)...Are you inane, PraiseTheLord? “

Oh Ho, so ElkGroveDan-who-sounds-like-a-troll has another pal here ~

If you have not seen the aforementioned horrors, I have a search engine I could refer you to !

[KittenClaws]

Mankind is getting too big for their own britches.

I’d like to opt out of the times we are living in, but I can’t.
We are screwed on so many levels, more than I care to know, but now I’m seeing them..