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In dissent, Scalia joins with court’s liberals to blast police DNA testing without warrant
Yahoo News ^ | 6/3/2013 | Kiz Goodwin

Posted on 06/03/2013 5:43:43 PM PDT by South40

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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Often in a criminal case fingerprints are not part of the crime scene but DNA might be.


41 posted on 06/03/2013 6:30:09 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Today it would make no difference. Dedicated researchers would have had the toilets rigged and there’d be an airtube tapping his breath!


42 posted on 06/03/2013 6:30:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: doc1019

I don’t intend to be committing any crimes (at least nothing that’s seriously illegal today).

They have no need of my DNA.


43 posted on 06/03/2013 6:33:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mrreaganaut

legal ping


44 posted on 06/03/2013 6:37:46 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: cripplecreek

AMEN!


45 posted on 06/03/2013 6:37:51 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: South40

Sir, I stopped you because your liscense plate light is burned out. Say ah.


46 posted on 06/03/2013 6:38:56 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Duke of Milan

Maybe the IRS and all gov’t agencies have people ID themselves by giving a DNA sample? It’s the only way to be sure...yeah that’s the ticket...a separate database for teapartiers of course. Once their imaginations run wild with what they can do with all these DNA samples only God knows what will happen.


47 posted on 06/03/2013 6:39:02 PM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: South40
I think that in certain cases...arrests for a serious crime,for example,the police should be allowed to take DNA from an arrestee and run it through their computers.But if charges are subsequently dropped or a trail results in a “not guilty” verdict that specimen *must* be destroyed and *all* records related to it must be deleted
48 posted on 06/03/2013 6:42:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: driftdiver

Yes - and how long before they determine that you have “prohibited genes” and require much higher insurance premiums or deny medical coverage at all for conditions or sterilization or worse?


49 posted on 06/03/2013 6:43:20 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: South40

I find it hard to see how DNA v. photographs v. fingerprints is not just a matter of degree not kind. So I guess I think the government should be allowed to take all three [or none is someone can make the case] if you are arrested, in the military etc.

But I also think that once you are unemcumbered by the government, the government should have to destroy all such material. Certainly when you leave the military or you are not charged or acquitted, your private image, fingerprints and DNA should be no longer kept by the government. I think you can further make the case that even if you are convicted, once you have served your sentence and are no longer subject to government control, these materials should not longer belong to the government.


50 posted on 06/03/2013 6:43:49 PM PDT by JLS
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To: South40

I am with Scalia. He is a moral force in this country.


51 posted on 06/03/2013 6:45:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chainmail

I’ve been watching Orphan Black on BBC America. Interesting discovery by the clones in the season finale that their genes were copywritten as intellectual property.


52 posted on 06/03/2013 6:47:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: driftdiver

Scalia is right. This is creeping tyranny.


53 posted on 06/03/2013 6:47:05 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: DoughtyOne

So far they don’t record every element of your personal genome ~ just enough to ID you ~ someday they’ll be able to recreate your persona from your DNA, interrogate your replicant, then execute you ~ probably a lot sooner than is comfortable, but that’s not what they are doing.


54 posted on 06/03/2013 6:47:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gay State Conservative

Lois Lerner will make sure that process is fair:Not really cause fair to democrats is if you are conservative then you are guilty


55 posted on 06/03/2013 6:48:01 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Jack Hammer

“Hey, come on - what about urine, blood, and stool samples!”

If they want my underwear, they can have it... (rim shot)


56 posted on 06/03/2013 6:50:13 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: South40

Want an approved government license? CCW , hunting/fishing license? Maybe a state drivers license? Applying for a work card? Maybe getting approval through a state board? Be prepared to hand over a DNA sample, along with your finger print card. It’s coming folks. Thanks to the SCOTUS.


57 posted on 06/03/2013 6:50:22 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Things are very different, ideologically, in the Judicial Branch from how they are in the legislative and executive branches.

Justices Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, though they differ in their judicial opinions, are good friends and often go to the opera together. The two even appeared onstage as party guests in the opera “Ariadne auf Naxos. “ They try to have lunch together once a week when the Court is in session.


58 posted on 06/03/2013 6:51:36 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Chainmail

Let’s say the CF theory is correct and folks who don’t have a mutant CF gene will die if they contract the black plague (in any form). So, which gene is ‘prohibited’ and which gene is ‘necessary’?


59 posted on 06/03/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: South40

I think there is a time in the near future that people just aren’t going to care about it. Not in the sense of apathy, but in the sense of John Hancock writing his signature large so that “King George could read it without his spectacles”.


60 posted on 06/03/2013 6:57:53 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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