Posted on 06/04/2013 7:34:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
RE: If Oklahomans can get rid of Ethanol...
Have they?
Iin fact, Obama, Nanny Pelosi and the enablers in Congress absolutely declared these fees were NOT a tax, so ObamaCare was not a tax passed by Congress. Chief Dupe Roberts cannot declare a tax into being just because the Chicago thugocracy managed to dig up some dirt on him.
I think, however, that the ruling of the Supreme Court would trump Nancy Pelosi, so therefore, OK is right and it is a tax that did not originate as constitutionally mandated.
I’ve never understood why this was not pursued by other groups, since it has always seemed to me that Roberts, for whatever reason, had provided the perfect out.
I have thought the same thing but only to a degree... by declaring it a tax the court (that I can’t call supreme) ruled that congress created a tax? If so then how can it be argued that the tax is unconstitutional?
And yes, Oklahoma offers ethanol free gasoline in some locations... not sure how much longer this will go on or how it has been managed but I am grateful for it.
Is it remotely possible this is the question begged by John Roberts last year?
I buy ethanol free gas at my local station here in OKC. It costs more, buy my mileage is much better.
You are both right. Nothing is as blind as the man who would not see. Roberts gave an opening to drive a truck through. Instead of castigating him, people should line up and say , okay, it’s a tax-that’s the rule of the land. Congress did not approve the tax, therefore, it’s void. Let us know when you get around to approving the tax.
I used to buy non-ethanol gas from an Indian-nation-owned gas station near me. I loved the mileage too.
After using it for about six months, my catalytic converter signaled that at was dead; this put my engine into "dumb mode," thereby canceling all my mileage gains. In addition, the replacement cat converter cost me a cool $900.
I thought that ethanol was a problem for converters, not the opposite - ?
I don't think it was the lack of ethanol. I think it was the presence of something, like maybe lead. There was no notice on the pump however. I think someone just screwed up.
The gas station is on a country road that leads to a large lakefront vacation region. A lot of people fill their boat tanks there. I don't think boat engines have cat converters, do they?
There are stations all across the country that still sell ethanol free gasoline. We are not allowed to use car gas with alcohol in our airplane... for obvious reasons. The government doesn’t care if their mandated go juice wrecks the engine in your car or lawn mower, but they don’t want small planes falling from the sky. You can find a list of 6756 stations here:
The one I buy from is a CFN (Commercial Fueling Network) station. We use it in our airplane and our 1942 Cadillac.
Presumably, that will happen sometime in January 2017 after Speaker Pelosi is sworn in.
Well, make that 2015...
I buy ethanol free gasoline at my local station in Norman. I just wish I could find 93 octane.
Bump
I think the question would be, did the bill that created the tax originate in the House? If not, it would violate Article 2, Section 7 of the Constitution.
"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."
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