Yes, our Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now. Truth is though, they were fighting a power across the Atlantic in an age when oceans were a big barrier to resupply and easy victory. Even so they barely won. Most of our Founding Fathers died having lost their fortunes.
We would be fighting federal troops on our own soil. The military we would be fighting would have the best possible tools to take us down. The idea we could win such an insurrection is laughable.
How do you win a war against a force that could hit you from 20,000 feet from over the horizon? Folks, this talk about shooting by now and such is not well thought out.
I do realize something needs to be done, but I’m thinking massive peaceful marches on Washington, D. C., and an awakening of our populace, so that only reform minded people make it to Washington and our state capitals.
When looking at what needs to take place, we need to look at people like Gandhi and King, not Washington and other notable figures from the Revolutionary War.
We could not win a military conflict. Talk of it is dangerous.
We already have idiots in D. C. who want the military to operate on our soil, and think nothing of recording every phone call we make.
I would suggest we need to be careful what we say on forums like this. I would keep it limited to what peaceful things we can do to get things back on track.
What you’re not accounting for is the fact that massive amounts of military assets (soldiers and “equipment”) would become active on the side of the revolutionaries. It wouldn’t be as one-sided as you think...
Never fight the guy sitting in the tank. Fight the guy who voted to send the tank.
” I do realize something needs to be done, but I’m thinking massive peaceful marches on Washington, D. C., and an awakening of our populace”
I have been saying this for some time now.
D.O., you're a smart person. I don't know why you let your pessimism overrule your higher analytical functions over this question.
Think of the orders of magnitude we're discussing. 1.5 million armed federal troops versus 100 million armed 'insurgent' citizens.
Of course the federals have awesome force multipliers, but those weapons have to be directed by someone. Those people are Americans too, with family and friends intermingled amongst us. Do you honestly think that every single American in uniform will just blindly obey an order to suppress their fellow citizens with force?
An order to implement Martial Law will first result in an internal struggle within the military itself. It'll be patriot against drone, and I fully expect the patriots to carry the day. Even if they were somehow outnumbered by loyal drones, the havoc they'd wreak on operations would be so intense, that the entire effort would be scuttled. Meanwhile, you'd have tens of millions of patriot citizens helping in every way they could, to help their fellows in the ranks.
Again - think it through. Don't you think the regime would have hauled us off to the gulags by now if they had the power to do so? Of course they would. Instead, they're forced to attempt their treasonous overthrow of the Constitution through skullduggery and hidden means, and the covers are being ripped off all of that as we speak.
Sadly, I concur with your assessment.
We might, indeed, have every constitutional and moral right to resist and revolt against encroaching tyranny - but alas, as you rationally point out, that “right” is now effectively moot.
It pretty much has been ever since 1865.
I very much doubt that we have the tactical, economic, logistical or practical means to do so with any hope of prevailing, or even surviving any sincere attempt.
That’s not any guarantee however that eventually some one won’t get sufficiently outraged and desperate so as to try it. Desperate, enraged people sometimes get a little crazy and are not always rational.
I suspect that there are elements within the ruling elite who intentionally want to provoke some kind of uprising in order to exploit it and “justify” drastic measures in order to “restore the peace”.
If (probably more like “when” at this point) that happens, it won’t be at all pretty.
There was very little doubt among our Revolutionary Founders that the success of that endeavor was essentially a function of divine providence rather than any superiority of arms. They shared a diverse yet generally integral Faith in God and fully acknowledged their dependence upon Him. Some of them were no angels, but most of them were not ashamed to study the Scriptures and pray regularly.
How is America’s relationship to the God of our Founders today? Does He owe us any favors?
IMHO we’d be a lot better off on our knees before the throne of Grace in repentance and supplication, seeking His forgiveness and will before we start even thinking about manning the barricades.