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Report: S-300 Missiles Now on Their Way to Syria
Arutz Sheva - Israel National News ^ | 6/6/2013, 11:04 AM | David Lev

Posted on 06/06/2013 12:54:31 PM PDT by haffast

Are S-300 missiles on their way to Syria right now? A report on CNN Thursday said that American intelligence units had observed several Russian warships on their way to Syria. The ships are currently in the eastern Mediterranean, and information gathered by the intelligence groups indicates that the ships are carrying parts for the S-300 missiles.

According to the report, the U.S. has been keeping track of the Russian ships for several days, ever since they left a military base in Russia. Satellite data indicates that the ships are carrying cargo that appears to be suitable for use in a weapons system, most likely the S-300.

Several days ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia had not yet begun shipping the missiles to Syria. However, in an interview on a Hizbullah-affiliated television channel last weekend, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad hinted that Syria had already received some of the missiles, the contract for which Damascus signed with Moscow several years ago. In response, Russian officials said that the systems had not yet been shipped to Syria.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; jordan; lebanon; missiles; putin; s300; syria; turkey; waronterror; yakhont
Russia says navy to stay in Mediterranean, but poses no threat
Lazar Berman and AP June 6, 2013, 9:17 pm

"Ships based out of Syrian port of Tartus; US intelligence believes shipments of S-300 might have been spotted"
http://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-navy-to-stay-in-mediterranean-but-poses-no-threat/

Report: Russia Sends Warships To Syrian Coast
Ynet News ^ | May 17, 2013 | Reuters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3020576/posts

1 posted on 06/06/2013 12:54:31 PM PDT by haffast
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To: haffast

For a moment there, I thought it said $300 missiles. Assad is tightening the purse strings.


2 posted on 06/06/2013 1:03:40 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: haffast

Are there any experts on Russian S300 missiles here on FR? IF so I would love your take on these vs US equipment Israel has.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 1:13:27 PM PDT by SilverMine (I love the USA but do not trust the govt or the press. the banks or the cartels.)
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To: SilverMine
Not a defense analyst myself but...The S-300 (top of the line as far as exported systems) is a profound threat to Israel or anyone else.

"The S-300 is Russia's top-of-the-range air-defense system," says Robert Hewson, the London-based editor of "IHS Jane's Air-Launched Weapons." "It is a surface-to-air missile system that's capable of shooting down any modern combat aircraft or missiles, including cruise missiles. In a way, it is the Russian equivalent to the U.S. Patriot system. And what it does for Syria is it adds a whole new level of capability on top of the existing Syrian air defenses. Syria already has a lot of Russian [surface-to-air] missiles, but the S-300 would be the most advanced."

Could foreign powers find ways to circumvent the S-300 system if it were deployed?

One way to circumvent air-defense systems is to try to disrupt their operations through electronic techniques rather than attack them directly. But Elleman says it is an open question whether the S-300 could be blocked this way.

"Electronic warfare and spoofing of systems in quite common," he says, "but one must keep in mind that the S-300 is a very sophisticated piece of weaponry. And I am not convinced that the West, Israel, or Turkey could reliably neutralize the system without taking some kind of kinetic action -- in other words, going after some of the radar or some of the interceptors [with force]. So, in terms of circumventing, I think it would be very difficult and very risky."

http://www.rferl.org/content/explainer-russia-syria-s-300-missile-system-/25003647.html

4 posted on 06/06/2013 1:30:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: SilverMine

The best way to counteract the S-300 would be to strike it before it is fully operational. I believe this is what the Israelis are telegraphing they intend to do.

The system is pretty self-contained. Since it is mobile, it may not take that long to activate. So perhaps, it might be better to say, it would be best to strike it after it has been off-loaded from the ship, and not yet reached its point of deployment.

It would not be healthy to be, ahem, a “technician” setting one of these things up in Syria. They will not hear the bomb “whistle” before impact.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 1:36:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
It would not be healthy to be, ahem, a “technician” setting one of these things up in Syria.

If the unfortunate technician happens to be of Russian nationality do you feel that Putin would ignore the gesture?

6 posted on 06/06/2013 1:42:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: steve86

No. I think that’s why Israel put them on very public notice.

This is a significant flash point. Israel is being backed into a corner where they will feel they have no choice. Assad or the rebels will be able to fire SCUD’s if the S-300 is allowed to deploy.

And if Russian, ahem, “technicians” are killed .....

(of course, there were “technicians” killed flying MiG’s in Korea and Vietnam).

Still ...


7 posted on 06/06/2013 1:51:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: haffast

Wag the Dog.


8 posted on 06/06/2013 2:39:38 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

Sounds like the End of Days is swiftly approaching.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 2:59:47 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: F15Eagle
It would not be healthy to be, ahem, a “technician” setting one of these things up in Syria. They will not hear the bomb “whistle” before impact.

Thank you sir, I appreciate it, that is kind of what I thought, but was not sure.

10 posted on 06/06/2013 5:01:25 PM PDT by SilverMine (I love the USA but do not trust the govt or the press. the banks or the cartels.)
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To: F15Eagle
It would not be healthy to be, ahem, a “technician” setting one of these things up in Syria. They will not hear the bomb “whistle” before impact.

Thank you sir, I appreciate it, that is kind of what I thought, but was not sure.

11 posted on 06/06/2013 5:01:36 PM PDT by SilverMine (I love the USA but do not trust the govt or the press. the banks or the cartels.)
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To: steve86

Thank you, this is getting serious isn’t it?

Now I am wondering whose side Obama is on.


12 posted on 06/06/2013 5:04:07 PM PDT by SilverMine (I love the USA but do not trust the govt or the press. the banks or the cartels.)
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To: haffast

Hold on...Russia said they were NOT going to send the missles.....CBS and all reporting so.

Sooooo...looks like papaganda war is on.....someone is wrong...either they are there or not.

Keeping in mind Germany and other nations told Putin not to do so...and why would he? He knows Israel has promised to blow them up?

Side note: ( Putin Announced, with his wife today, their marriage is over.)


13 posted on 06/06/2013 5:22:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: F15Eagle
Do you really think Putin would chance sending them knowing that Israel will blow them up? I think this is a cat and mouse propaganda game right now....Just two days ago they said the Missile's would not be sent.
14 posted on 06/06/2013 5:24:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mmogamer

Anytime there’s tension in the Middle-East the alarm is rung....but there is further positioning to take place before the “End of Days” so to speak...

....but it is interesting observing the ebb and flow over there as ‘nation leaders’ rally for power and position..with the ultimate aim of a seat at the Global World Power.

Equally as much the economic conditions worldwide...follow the money as whoever has it will inch closer to the top of the heap.

The USA is giving our money away to these countries...no doubt with the promise of ‘certain US individuals’ Guaranteed their place at the Global Table.


15 posted on 06/06/2013 5:31:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: haffast
What's the over/under they make it to Syria?

5.56mm

16 posted on 06/06/2013 5:39:29 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: F15Eagle
They will not hear the bomb “whistle” before impact.

I think they would, although my only experience was with a Mk-82.

17 posted on 06/06/2013 5:47:24 PM PDT by xone
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To: M Kehoe; F15Eagle
I'd guess 100% they make it to the Russian naval base in Tartus, Syria. Once far enough outside the of the base the debris fallout wouldn't scratch the front gates, and probably outside the town limits, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near 'em.

Maybe let the Russians and Syrians waste manpower and money assembling them and setting them up, then get the most bang for the Israeli shekel.

18 posted on 06/06/2013 6:29:19 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: caww

Putin’s machismo tells me he will send them. This is, after all, the man helping Iran and he knows exactly what the mullahs intend.


19 posted on 06/06/2013 11:41:51 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: haffast

Of course, and then if Israel blows them up, Putin will happily offer to sell more. For more money, of course.


20 posted on 06/06/2013 11:43:31 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: xone

Guess it depends upon whether Israel will hit them with free-fall, laser or GPS, or their version of say a Maverick missile. Then there’s parachute-retarded, dunno.

I sure wouldn’t want to be near one after it’s offloaded from the ship.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 11:49:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: steve86

Don’t worry Obama knows something! The missiles are on the way,we now have nothing to fear,Obama will stop them! Here I come to save the day,Mighty Mouse is on the way!


22 posted on 06/07/2013 5:53:16 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: haffast

Sounds like Vietnam redux,let the Russians surround Hanoi with SAM’S,get them operational,BEFORE, we let our pilots go in and take them out


23 posted on 06/07/2013 5:56:36 AM PDT by ballplayer
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