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Sources: NSA Sucks in Data From 50 Companies (Can track people in 'near-real time')
The Week ^ | Thursday, June 6, 2013 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 06/06/2013 7:10:52 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn

Hey NSA! Suck wind. Clapper, Holder, Rice, ya copy?


101 posted on 06/06/2013 10:52:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Hmmmm.. I’m thinking this leak was triggered by team 0bama themselves, so as to bring back the ‘Bush’s fault’ mantra and attach his name to the scandals. It’s worked so well the past four years.

Rush Limbaugh played some of Senator Obama's speeches today where he was CONDEMNING the Bush administration for the very things HE is doing now, and worse! Is the MSM covering this blatant hypocrisy? WILL they???

102 posted on 06/06/2013 10:52:55 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: SpaceBar

Marker


103 posted on 06/06/2013 11:17:37 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: lodi90

Never blame the CIA for your own (Obama’s) incompetence.

They bite back...

David Petraeus was outed by the White House apparently because he wouldn’t play ball with the Benghazi thing and his underlings weren’t amused. That would be my guess...


107 posted on 06/07/2013 12:17:30 AM PDT by DB
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To: txhurl

Check this out:

http://www.newsdiffs.org/diff/245566/245668/www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html

The New York Times added a few key words to their story since it was first released to lower the damage...


108 posted on 06/07/2013 12:23:37 AM PDT by DB
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To: kristinn
"The idea is to create a mosaic. We get a tip. We vet it. Then we mine the data for intelligence," one of the officials said.

Oh, well, thank goodness, now they can vet the usurper, huh.

109 posted on 06/07/2013 4:08:07 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: kristinn
The wave of disclosures about the NSA programs have significantly unsettled the intelligence community. The documents obtained by the two newspapers are marked ORCON, or originator controlled, which generally means that the agency keeps a record of every person who accesses them online and knows exactly who might have printed out or saved or accessed a copy. The NSA in particular has a good record of protecting its documents.

We heard about PRISM years ago so who thought it necessary to bring it back into the headlines at this particular time and why?

110 posted on 06/07/2013 4:15:22 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Signalman
The 16th Amendment began the repeal of the 4th and 9th.

Unconstitutional means to achieve constitutional ends.

111 posted on 06/07/2013 4:32:41 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: kristinn

Hmmm. Didn’t seem to work very well in Boston.

Manufacturing a bureaucratic termite mound ala the Info-Fiefdom != “TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men”


112 posted on 06/07/2013 7:18:26 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: kristinn

People are forgetting that this government has identified Tea Partiers, gun control advocates and other conservatives as “terrorists”. When we read that the phone spying efforts were aimed at rooting out terrorists and their networks, I do not think that the government thinks that “terrorist” means what we think it means. I think that they wanted to monitor US calling patterns to identify conservatives and their allies.


113 posted on 06/07/2013 8:12:36 AM PDT by Piranha (We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.)
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To: xkaydet65

I have seen it at least twice I can remember, but no since about 1982 maybe. I liked it better than Wargames or other computer conspiracy movies.

TCM needs to pull it out and show it.


114 posted on 06/07/2013 8:24:57 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: IrishPennant

“declare Martial Law, at which point, check mate for them”

Finally I would get to use some of the ammo I am hoarding.
I think at this point we will win. Moderates and some dims will become scared enough to realize they screwed us. NObama using any massive suppression force will seal him doom.


115 posted on 06/07/2013 8:28:35 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: kristinn

A short history of Echelon, the grandparent of Prism:
http://echelononline.free.fr/documents/dc/inside_echelon.htm

The world’s most secret electronic surveillance system has its main origin in the conflicts of the Second World War. In a deeper sense, it results from the invention of radio and the fundamental nature of telecommunications. The creation of radio permitted governments and other communicators to pass messages to receivers over transcontinental distances. But there was a penalty - anyone else could listen in. Previously, written messages were physically secure (unless the courier carrying them was ambushed, or a spy compromised communications). The invention of radio thus created a new importance for cryptography, the art and science of making secret codes. It also led to the business of signals intelligence, now an industrial scale activity.

Although the largest surveillance network is run by the US NSA, it is far from alone. Russia, China, France and other nations operate worldwide networks. Dozens of advanced nations use sigint as a key source of intelligence. Even smaller European nations such as Denmark, the Netherlands or Switzerland have recently constructed small, Echelon-like stations to obtain and process intelligence by eavesdropping on civil satellite communications.

During the 20th century, governments realised the importance of effective secret codes. But they were often far from successful. During the Second World War, huge allied codebreaking establishments in Britain and America analysed and read hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese signals. What they did and how they did it remained a cloely-guarded secret for decades afterwards. In the intervening period, the US and British sigint agencies, NSA and Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) constructed their worldwide listening network.

The system was established under a secret 1947 “UKUSA Agreement,” which brought together the British and American systems, personnel and stations. To this was soon joined the networks of three British commonwealth countries, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Later, other countries including Norway, Denmark, Germany and Turkey signed secret sigint agreements with the United States and became “third parties” participants in the UKUSA network.

Besides integrating their stations, each country appoints senior officials to work as liaison staff at the others’ headquarters. The United States operates a Special US Liaison Office (SUSLO) in London and Cheltenham, while a SUKLO official from GCHQ has his own suite of offices inside NSA headquarters at Fort Meade, between Washington and Baltimore.

Under the UKUSA agreement, the five main English-speaking countries took responsibility for overseeing surveillance in different parts of the globe . Britain’s zone included Africa and Europe, east to the Ural Mountains of the former USSR; Canada covered northern latitudes and polar regions; Australia covered Oceania. The agreement prescribed common procedures, targets, equipment and methods that the sigint agencies would use.

Among them were international regulations for sigint security , which required that before anyone was admitted to knowledge of the arrangements for obtaining and handling sigint, they must first undertake a lifelong commitment to secrecy.

Every individual joining a UKUSA sigint organisation must be “indoctrinated” and, often “re-indoctrinated” each time they are admitted to knowledge of a specific project. They are told only what they “need to know”, and that the need for total secrecy about their work “never ceases”.


116 posted on 06/07/2013 8:37:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: Resolute Conservative
Finally I would get to use some of the ammo I am hoarding.

Shhhhhhh....you are obviously referring to the ammo the recent floods washed down the river, right?

117 posted on 06/07/2013 9:08:39 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Excuse me...Here's your nose. I found it in my business....agian!)
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To: IrishPennant

Yes and the ones the recent tornadoes blew away, but I figure that they probably already know about me so what is the point.


118 posted on 06/07/2013 9:16:59 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: kristinn

Any one who says this is OK should have all their data released to the public immediately; starting with Mr and Mrs Obama.


119 posted on 06/07/2013 9:24:39 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Touche’...guess we are beyond “Bring It”.


120 posted on 06/07/2013 9:51:03 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Excuse me...Here's your nose. I found it in my business....agian!)
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