[sickoflibs]

RD :”Though Americans are usually evenly split over the Patriot Act, I suspect that the brazenness and widespread nature of this particular brand of snooping probably won’t go over well. It’s important to remember that during the Bush years the NSA had, as this USA Today story characterizes it, a “massive database of Americans’ phone calls,” so this isn’t exactly new territory. The GOP will undoubtedly be branded a bunch of hypocrites (and in some instances it will be well deserved). What is new in Washington, however, is a gaggle of libertarian-minded GOP politicians that weren’t part of the 99-1 affirmative vote on the Patriot Act and they weren’t here for a decade defending the expansion of FISA courts.“

Check out the comments on this past thread, they go like :'Bush is keeping you safe and needs to do whatever he thinks it takes to do that, if you aint a terrorist you is safe, what are you a terrorist sympathizer or somthin???':

ABC News claimed yesterday that phone calls made by its reporters and journalists at the New York Times and Washington Post are being traced by the federal government as part of an investigation into leaks of classified information.
ABC Claims Government Traced Its Reporters’ Calls
New York Sun ^ | May 16,2006 | JOSH GERSTEIN
Posted here at FR

[1010RD]

We need to stop looking at these laws as if they’re placed in the hands of super men. Instead, we need to say, “if this law was put in the hands of a Stalin what happens next?”

Government people are ordinary humans drawn from the same population pool. There is nothing extraordinary about them. Government is political by its very nature and has a long history of abuse. Don’t trust it.

It was sickening to watch ‘conservative’ radio hosts along with FReepers rationalizing the Patriot Act, the creation of the DHS and the TSA. Government is government and, despite stated party affiliation, the history of all POTUSes is the same: government grows. That’s the wrong direction if you love liberty.

[Clintonfatigued]

So many mostly sensible people have dismissed the concerns of Libertarians. But more often than not, Libertarians have been proven right.