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The Schools' Sinister War on Guns
americanthinker.com ^ | 6-7-2013 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 06/07/2013 6:39:47 AM PDT by servo1969

The obvious answer here is that the last two decades' school shootings and our civilization's general moral decline have changed the equation. But while this would explain the desire to keep students with real firearms off school grounds, there is no logical reason to apply this to toy guns. Saying otherwise is like claiming that because you wouldn't trust an 11-year-old to drive the family car to school, you won't let him bring toy cars with him, either; or that he won't be allowed to possess toy airplanes because he isn't ready to pilot a 747 for Delta. The same applies to the argument that bringing toy guns to school makes the leap to bringing real ones that much shorter; it's as nonsensical as saying that junior is more likely to steal the family sedan if you let him play with Matchbox cars.

Of course, there is the paranoia explanation: the school shootings have made people so fearful that anything smacking of firearms is reflexively rejected. And I'm sure this is a factor -- but I'm also sure there's more to it. What is it?

Conditioning.

Many have posited the theory that the goal here is to raise generations amenable to strict gun control by instilling the young with negative attitudes toward firearms. And how better to do this than with swift and sure punishment for anything that evidences even the thought of a gun? Doodle a firearm, point your fingers like one -- anything at all -- and, bang!, you suffer for your wrong thinking. Think doubleplusgood thoughts, little boy, about flowers and kittens and rainbows and what gender you want to be. And should a child be a tad recalcitrant, nothing creates negative associations with firearms like a two-hour, pants-wetting interrogation at the age of five.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; childabuse; guncontrol; guns; indoctrination; kids; school; secondamendment; tolerance; zero; zerotolerance
Schools are generally supposed to teach children how they will be expected to act in society when they are grown. So, what are these zero-tolerance policies actually teaching them? Gun are inherently evil - unless the government issues one to you. Then they are righteous and good. Progressives want the next generation to feel sick to their stomachs at the very sight of a firearm; a Pavlovian response so ingrained it can not be ignored.

Our children are being psychologically programed every day, Guns are bad...Guns are bad...Guns are always bad...Only the State can be trusted with guns...

1 posted on 06/07/2013 6:39:47 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
Our children are being psychologically programed every day, Guns are bad

Yes, they are being "clockwork oranged" during their formative years. It's the western counterpart to Palee Gazans, teaching their kids to kill jews.

2 posted on 06/07/2013 6:42:38 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: servo1969
It isn't working with all kids. My grandson, who isn't quite yet 8 years old, is a darn good shot, and appreciates firearms and firearm safety.

/johnny

3 posted on 06/07/2013 6:45:30 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: servo1969

These same twits will be wishing we had a group of adults in 20 years or so that isn’t afraid to handle a gun to become a police officer when a criminal who CAN handle one is in their home.

Liberals don’t make decisions based on mental logic, only FEELINGS.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 6:59:44 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: servo1969

Cass Sunstein is the engineer behind all this.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 7:10:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: servo1969

Yet you give a kid in his pre-teen years a .22, and he becomes a fan for life.

They want to imprint a fear of guns in kids across the board for the purpose of FEAR. They don’t want them to have them and they want them to think that those who do have them, aside from the police and military, are evil and deserve to be imprisoned.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 7:11:02 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: servo1969

They call it ‘zero tolerance’ to make us think they are stupid. In reality, they are not stupid. All this bull$h!t is to criminalize the thought of a gun.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 7:18:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: servo1969
You siad:
Our children are being psychologically programed every day...

That is the important take-away that should not be missed.

My first impression was the article should have been entitled: "The Schools' Sinister War on Children". If not "children", then "America".

Disarming America is precisely the goal. Proceeding in the earliest days of government controlled education and conditioning is simply a long term method of achieving that goal. As in a "long war".

What other explanation can there be for the near-hysterical, irrational behavior of school officials?

8 posted on 06/07/2013 7:21:28 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: servo1969

Does anyone else remember high school rifle teams? With real firearms not air rifles?


9 posted on 06/07/2013 7:22:27 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: CPOSharky
I can remember taking a shotgun on the school bus, storing it in my school locker, and hunting after school on school property!

It was a rural school and they owned about 80 acres behind the school.

10 posted on 06/07/2013 7:34:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: servo1969

This is when its time to use a commie pig, Clownward and Privvet tactic and turn it on the numbskulls in the ed system.

OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM.

Organize a tweetmob and at a certain time in the day, do a flash COPS N ROBBERS where all the kids run through the school pointing their fingers and blasting the beejeezus out each other.

Then let them do their stupid lock down and arrest a couple hundred kids.

Just be sure the cops don’t “frisk” the robbers, cause that will open another whole different can of worms.

Commie pigs only respect commie pig bully tactics.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 7:37:38 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: CPOSharky

All this stupidity about “guns” is nothing more than a constant brainwashing of a future generation to abore guns.

Requiring a family to change a deaf childs name since one of the letters in his name spelled out in sign language is the shape of a “gun” (finger pointing outward) is INSANITY at its finest. This stupidity has to be stopped.


12 posted on 06/07/2013 7:39:37 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for HONEST government)
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To: servo1969

I have been rather shocked by the seeming *absence* of gun rights organizations lobbying state legislatures to end these zero tolerance inanities in the schools.

States could create “common sense in the schools” laws, that direct principals to decide each and every disciplinary case on its merits, instead of lumping them together in a bizarre ZT policy. Require them to submit to their school district a brief, say 5 paragraph, memo with each discipline case.

The districts would consolidate these, and provide them to the state board of education.

1st paragraph: Name and grade of student(s) and faculty, staff, parents, and others who are involved.
2nd paragraph: Description of incident(s).
3rd paragraph: Description of estimated “real harm” of the incident, and what kind of harm(s) it could have or did result in.
4th paragraph: Description of discipline assigned, based on personal judgment.
5th paragraph: Additional comments and notes, including potential legal repercussions.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 9:59:20 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: servo1969

Parenting is more important then ever, so you can undo the communist indoctrination schools perform on your kids.

Of course there are millions and millions of absentee parents who assume schools are no different then they were when they went through them. So a lot of kids are receiving communist indoctrination not being corrected by parents — from fearing guns, to embracing gay marriage and islam, to surrendering all their rights to the State.


14 posted on 06/07/2013 11:38:13 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: servo1969; djf; Forrestfire; rockrr; Libertina; jazusamo; tallyhoe; RinaseaofDs; Baynative; ...
But the question is, are the rest of us going to be sheeple as well? If not, there are things we can and should do to counter the schools' war on guns and tradition. First, parents should organize, pick up their children from an offending school with toy guns in hand, and play a visible shoot-'em-up game on school grounds. I'm serious. It's called desensitization. Moreover, it tells the children in the strongest way possible that there is nothing wrong with toy-gun play. And if the schools are trying to condition your kids the wrong way, why not condition them the right way?

Then there is the stick. The reason insanity keeps occurring at schools and elsewhere is that leftists are never held accountable. But here we must take a leaf out of their book. When someone transgresses against their politically correct code -- think Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder, Don Imus, or James Watson here -- an apology won't suffice.

The left wants the person destroyed. So follow suit. Don't be like a certain popular cable-news host who is wont to say "I don't want to see the ____ (the tyrant du jour) lose his job." Make sure a school official who commits leftist abuse upon a child never works again. Go for the jugular, for the kill shot; give no quarter. Go Roman. It's only when thousands of the thought police's decaying corpses of careers are lining the Apian Way that those in darkness will see the light. The Culture War is just that -- a war. And if you want to turn it around, this must be your mindset -- every day, every way, every school, at every level.

Guns and Grade-School Panic

When, oh, when, are we going to start firing these idiots running these schools?

Ridicule is just the start. These politically correct nitwits need to be hounded from their jobs!
15 posted on 06/07/2013 1:18:14 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: servo1969; All

http://youtu.be/RXwo9lARAgg


16 posted on 06/07/2013 5:35:57 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: neverdem

I liked the last part about the decaying corpses of careers. The consumers of schooling need to reassert control over the employees, instead of living in fear of them.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 6:18:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick (More open defiance is needed.)
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To: neverdem

Ridicule them. We should mail cut out guns to the principal with a note - Don’t be scared, it’s just pretend.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 3:03:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: servo1969
The Schools' Sinister War on Guns America!
19 posted on 06/08/2013 5:34:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C210N

Our chilrun are being TARGETED.


20 posted on 06/08/2013 5:35:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: I want the USA back
All this bull$h!t is to criminalize the thought...
21 posted on 06/08/2013 5:36:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

> Parenting is more important then ever, so you can undo the
> communist indoctrination schools perform on your kids.

If your kids are in the government school collective, then they are exposed to government indoctrination and statist peer pressure for at least 40 hours per week. Not to mention the statist indoctrination they receive from “entertainment” media for at least another 20 hours a week.

How are you going to compete with that? If your kids are in public school, and are subject to average exposure to media, most of them will already think their conservative parents are idiots and throwbacks by the time they’re 14.

The “public school” is the Bus Ministry of the State Church of Humanism.

The “public school”, including the “charter school”, is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is collectivist.

It is hypocritical to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. Children do not trust hypocrites, so this will undermine your own authority, let alone influence, with your children.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

To understand the content and compass of modern education, see ...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54400125/Change-Agents-in-the-Schools-Barbara-Morris-1979

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children better than you can.

Nobody knows your children better than you do.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.

And DO NOT TAKE GOVERNMENT “EDUCATION” MONEY!

He that pays the piper calls the tune, and that’s especially true for any government entitlement program.


22 posted on 06/08/2013 7:04:08 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

Good post and completely true.


23 posted on 06/08/2013 9:25:41 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: servo1969; sickoflibs; NFHale
And should a child be a tad recalcitrant, nothing creates negative associations with firearms like a two-hour, pants-wetting interrogation at the age of five.

until men start taking care of business and striking the fear of God into these thugs/child abusers, its going to keep getting worse...

i honestly fear what Im capable of doing to someone who would treat my child this way...

24 posted on 06/08/2013 10:39:53 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; servo1969; sickoflibs
They're “conditioning” the kids ala Pavlov.
25 posted on 06/10/2013 1:56:15 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s just a ‘nudge’ in the right direction. What harm could it cause?


26 posted on 06/12/2013 4:53:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CPOSharky

Chicago had outstanding rifle teams up until about a decade ago. Somebody did a study of all the kids who’d been on those teams. Not one ever committed a ‘gun crime’.

News broke on that, Daley was embarrassed and the schools quietly ended their rifle teams. You can’t have facts get in the way of good rhetoric.


27 posted on 06/12/2013 4:57:11 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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