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1 posted on 06/08/2013 3:30:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I take it that you don’t understand how fascism works.


2 posted on 06/08/2013 3:34:54 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: neverdem

Here’s how to tell if someone in congress is serious about being against this or is just playing you...did they vote for the patriot act or to renew it? If they did and are pretending to be outraged by this, then your bullshit detector should be going tilt.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 3:37:03 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: neverdem

Obama phones were exempted.


4 posted on 06/08/2013 3:37:37 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: neverdem
 
 
What's old is new again - looks like "General Warrants" have returned.
 
 

6 posted on 06/08/2013 3:45:18 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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7 posted on 06/08/2013 3:46:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

there was no paper trail with Hitler and the final solution.


8 posted on 06/08/2013 3:51:39 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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Gee, I never thought I’d see the New Republic citing Scalia approvingly!


10 posted on 06/08/2013 4:04:38 PM PDT by madmominct
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That 215 memorandum should be released so that Congress and American citizens can debate publicly whether or not this kind of blanket surveillance is consistent with the Fourth Amendment.

There is no debate. Duh. Consistent with? Sh1t, it's in direct violation of.

Only an idiot would call for a debate of something so obviously illegal.

11 posted on 06/08/2013 4:07:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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Show Me the Memo: Obama should share his legal justification for collecting Verizon's phone records

The title of the referenced article is an example of a trap that I often fall into when naïvely trying to respect the constitutionally undefined idea of presumed innocence when confronting people about their wrongdoing.

More specifically, regardless that Obama and previous Constitution-ignoring presidents cannot reasonably justify "some" (read lots) of their official actions under the Constitution, particularly actions which reasonably abridge personal protections, their accusers often make the mistake of diplomatically petending that people like Obama actually know something about the Constitution that their accusers don't. Unfortunately, this diplomatic approach to confronting crooks like Obama gives them the opportunity to BS their way out of their wrongdoing.

12 posted on 06/08/2013 4:37:40 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: neverdem

You can give so many tips to MI on real targets about islam and the left, and they never follow up, but they snoop the rest of us on their own interest. Once
again, too much ammo, not enough leash in this idiot government which thinks it knows or can do it all, without checks or askings.


13 posted on 06/08/2013 7:26:44 PM PDT by lavaroise
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Show Me the Memo: Obama should share his legal justification for collecting Verizon's phone records

I strongly suspect that Verizon is named only because they forced the 0bama regime to get a subpoena for their illegal collection. Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile probably just handed everything over.

The information collected would be very useful in determining what strategies to employ in election campaigns and in gathering blackmail material on people like, say, Supreme Court justices?

"Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry 1775

14 posted on 06/09/2013 4:28:30 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Jesus, Please Save America!)
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