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From KAZ in the comments section of this article:

“But I do know one thing: the order to "stand down" could ONLY have come from POTUS.

I played golf a few weeks back with a connected Army officer who told me there is a LOT of hushed chatter among senior Army brass about this. It's a KNOWN secret in DC, people in the Pentagon and Congress that ONLY POTUS could give the order to stand down......thus, senior military leaders are both incensed and terrified (scared that those in the know could be sacked--and their precious pensions along with them--if they even think about leaking the goods on Obama).

Discovering who gave the talking points to Susan Rice is a straw man; find out who gave the stand down order.....you'll find your smoking gun and what Obama is so terrified of.”

1 posted on 06/09/2013 7:46:41 AM PDT by joygrace
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To: joygrace
failure of the Obama regime to adequately protect the American consulate

Benghazi didn't have a consulate; diplomatic mission, yes; consulate, no.

2 posted on 06/09/2013 7:49:10 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: joygrace

Exactly. The “who” gave the orders in all these scandals is Obama himself. If it was anyone other than Obama, we would have the names by now. The fact that no one will say leads to the conclusion that it was him. I guess they are all scared to death which is so wrong.


3 posted on 06/09/2013 7:58:35 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: joygrace

The Benghazi thing was and is a real threat and impeachable. What we are seeing now is the classic lawyer technique of muddying the waters with scandal after scandal so visibility on everything scandalous is zero. In “normal” times the MS wouldn’t let any admin get away with this, but the MSM is actually helping the admin. Remember ALL of our rulers are, deep down, just 2 bit lawyers...


4 posted on 06/09/2013 8:05:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: joygrace

The real scandal and the truth the administration is hiding is the so called “arab spring”.


7 posted on 06/09/2013 8:09:05 AM PDT by The Toll
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Well, they tried to disappear four murdered Americans but they don't hide so well. There is SO much more to this story.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


8 posted on 06/09/2013 8:26:38 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: joygrace

Think we are allowed to have multiple scandals. We’ve seen it this way before and it was handled.


10 posted on 06/09/2013 8:28:25 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: joygrace

Impeachment is merely fact finding and a recommendation by the House of Representatives. The Senate may then vote to retain or remove the President. It is akin to the procedures some organizations have for removing an employee. That is how people should view impeachment. It’s a process to see whether an employee of the US taxpayers should be removed.
Benghazi is a different story. It’s not just about removing an employee. It is way more serious than that. Benghazi leads to questioning our involvement in the overthrow of the government of Libya. Why did Hillary and Obama use American taxpayer funded personnel, equipment and money to overthrow the government of Libya? Have Hillary and Obama ever shown any previous care and concern for the people of Libya? No. But there are a lot of people interested in Qadaffi’s money and the oil in Libya. Hillary and Obama are standing here with their asses hanging out over Libya. What they’ve done doesn’t just get you fired, it gets you in front of a tribunal. That’s why Benghazi is so dangerous to them. These other issues can get you fired. Benghazi can get them life in prison or hung. The Democrats will do anything to get rid of Benghazi.


11 posted on 06/09/2013 8:30:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: joygrace

And weren’t one (or more) of these “new” scandals leaked or otherwise revealed by the agencies themselves?

Such a release doesn’t equal a “devastating revelation” so much as a scripted and cynical ploy to manipulate the news.

We’re being played here, folks.

Where are the rest of those Benghazi whistleblowers, anyway?


13 posted on 06/09/2013 8:38:21 AM PDT by DNME (Tired of being polite? Bring back the Sons of Liberty!)
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To: joygrace

The scandal dump isn’t so much a smokescreen as a ruse to get people to believe a lie by repeating it over and over again like they did with the “spontaneous” lie.

The Obama adm. repeated “spontaneous” over and over again so people would repeat over and over again the lie that there was no connection to the attack in Libya and the video protest in Egypt.

The truth is the protest in Egypt was planned in order to create the “spontaneous” lie. It was the Obama adm. that planned the attack in Libya and the “spontaneous” lie was a cover story. Those terrorist are so in tune with the news don’t you know, they can pick up on a news story and plan a terrorist attack in just a few minutes, nothing was planned months in advance, it was spontaneous.

The same thing is happening with the NSA phone data scandal.

You now have all of these people out here, republicans and democrats, repeating over and over and over again “it’s necessary to fight terrorism”.

It’s a ruse to make people believe Obama is really trying to fight terrorism when he’s not he’s actually collaborating with the terrorist as shown with Benghazi.

The attempted car bombing in NYC May 1, 2010, and the planned subway bombing in 2009 (the one they are now trying to claim was stopped because of NSA data gathering) are perfect examples of where the Obama adm. orchestrated news stories prior to the attacks.

Thus the need for the “spontaneous” lie that the terrorist are picking up on the news and planning attacks around the news instead of the news being orchestrated for the attacks.


14 posted on 06/09/2013 8:42:11 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: joygrace
there is a LOT of hushed chatter among senior Army brass about this.

Among the many disturbing and disgusting things about this - this one is close to the top. Honor and integrity for sale.

16 posted on 06/09/2013 8:44:41 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: joygrace
find out who gave the stand down order.

Get the dogs chasing their tails and the tails of so many others that they pass right by the obvious.

18 posted on 06/09/2013 8:48:30 AM PDT by alrea (find out who gave the stand down order.)
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To: joygrace

Watergate involved ZERO deaths but FIFTY people indicted or in prison.


21 posted on 06/09/2013 9:10:00 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: joygrace

It isn’t so much a smokescreen as it is the greatest country on earth burning to the ground.


23 posted on 06/09/2013 9:13:54 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: joygrace
 photo founding-fathers_zps9b4d2931.jpg Until one of these Generals who know the truth muster up the courage of just one of these men, we will never have the evidence to eliminate these tyrants.
28 posted on 06/09/2013 9:39:52 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: joygrace

I have two fundamental questions that need to be answered and the answers should not be classified.

1. What were the results of Steven’s autopsy? Make whoever performed the autopsy testify in public under oath.

2. What were the names of the 30 or so personnel (some of whom were wounded) who were trapped in Benghazi? Who is preventing them from being known and testifying and why?


30 posted on 06/09/2013 9:52:08 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: joygrace

Suppose it was proven that Obama gave the stand down order?

Since that is clearly one of his Constitutional prerogatives, what do you think Congress would do about it?

Solely from the perspective of (legally and Constitutionally) removing Obama from office, I don’t see that Benghazi can accomplish the job.


31 posted on 06/09/2013 10:05:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: joygrace

And I bet we find out that Obama was PARTYING with Jay Z or some other Gansta that night of Benghazi!! Betcha....anyone??


33 posted on 06/09/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: joygrace

Those who wish to bring down Obama ahould get Snowden on the case. With the right backing, he can ferret out the truth about Obama, Clinton, Casey, Hamm, etc. by dissecting their phone calls during the Benghazi incident.

Who would like to be the highest bidder on Snowden’s brain?

I’m guessing the Chinese.


44 posted on 06/10/2013 11:38:31 AM PDT by miserare
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