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School Threatens to Ruin Valedictorianís Naval Academy Appt.
radio.foxnews.com ^ | June 13, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 06/13/2013 5:39:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

A Texas high school principal threatened to sabotage a valedictorian’s appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy after the student delivered a speech that referenced God and the U.S. Constitution, Fox News has learned.

Hiram Sasser, director of litigation with the Liberty Institute, said Joshua High School principal Mick Cochran threatened to write a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy disparaging the character of Remington Reimer. “It was intimidating having my high school principal threaten my future because I wanted to stand up for the Constitution and acknowledge my faith and not simply read a government approved speech, the teenager said. Sasser is now representing the teenager and is calling for the Joshua Independent School District to issue a public statement exonerating him of any wrongdoing. He said the speech was edited and reviewed by four different school officials – including an officer in the JROTC. Sasser said the censorship violated federal and state laws.

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1 posted on 06/13/2013 5:39:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

When are we going to abolish government education and put an end to petty little Kinder Gestapo agents like this punk.


2 posted on 06/13/2013 5:46:14 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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To: ilovesarah2012

“...and not simply read a government approved speech.”

I like the way this young man talks - says it all in just a few words.


3 posted on 06/13/2013 5:46:49 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - ¬ďWe do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,¬)
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To: ilovesarah2012

All I can say is wow, unbelieveable some petty bureaucrat wants to take this approach. He should be happy this is not my son.


4 posted on 06/13/2013 5:47:08 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I guess this principle must not like his job. This might fly in California or New York, but he’s going to find Texas is far less forgiving of his antics.


5 posted on 06/13/2013 5:48:15 AM PDT by PlanToDisappear
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To: ilovesarah2012

Sasser is kinda’ showing himself in a bad light. The service academies are all into that “honor and integrity” stuff.

If he presented a speech to the school that was approved - and then he read a different speech - it might be said that he lied.


6 posted on 06/13/2013 5:49:09 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Tweeted.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 5:49:51 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: PeteB570

Sasser? I meant the student who gave the speech.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 5:50:22 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
Joshua High School principal Mick Cochran should be charged with official oppression and 1st amendment violations. Where is the so called ACLU when there is a real job for them?
9 posted on 06/13/2013 5:52:18 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: ilovesarah2012; HoosierDammit; TYVets; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

10 posted on 06/13/2013 5:52:36 AM PDT by narses
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To: ilovesarah2012

Tell the liberal geek administrator:

“All behavior has consequences, so you do whatever you want to do.”


11 posted on 06/13/2013 5:52:49 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: PeteB570

Yep, it’s obvious the kid has no integrity. Pull his appointment to Annapolis immediately. Pull his HS graduation, too.

The principal is very clearly in the right here.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 5:54:44 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Hmmmm, a public school principal who doesn’t believe in the First Amendment to the Constitution. What a surprise.


13 posted on 06/13/2013 5:55:04 AM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

LOL - wait and see, not everyone will get the sarcasm. Why anyone puts their children in public school is beyond me.


14 posted on 06/13/2013 5:56:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

On behalf of all clear thinking Texas school administrators - active and retired - I am embarrassed and furious over Cochran’s asinine, childish, vindictive and petty behavior. What an ass and I apologize to all donkeys and mules for lumping them in with this figgin’ idiot. His sorry butt better be in the superintendent’s office for a serious attitude adjustment. If not, I hope the kid sues the whole damn district and cleans them out!


15 posted on 06/13/2013 5:58:19 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Mick Cochran threatened to write a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy disparaging the character of Remington Reimer.”

If this is true, shame on Principal Cochran, and shame on whoever hired him in the first place.

Whatever speech the kid gave, and whatever school rules he may or may not have broken, threatening this young man’s future is grossly disproportionate and the act of a petty tyrant.


16 posted on 06/13/2013 5:58:24 AM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Didn’t say that - but I did point out the one thing all of you missed - he lied.


17 posted on 06/13/2013 5:59:50 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Honor Concept of the United States Naval Academy

“Midshipmen are persons of integrity: They stand for that which is right.

They tell the truth and ensure that the full truth is known. They do not lie.

They embrace fairness in all actions. They ensure that work submitted as their own is their own, and that assistance received from any source is authorized and properly documented. They do not cheat.

They respect the property of others and ensure that others are able to benefit from the use of their own property. They do not steal.”

This young man could be a poster boy for the Honor Concept.

Sadly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the politically correct twits at the Academy withdrew this young man’s appointment...


18 posted on 06/13/2013 6:00:51 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Mouton

I know what I’d do if this was my son...


19 posted on 06/13/2013 6:01:07 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: ilovesarah2012
God bless the Liberty Institute. That's where some of our titheing or "charitable giving" should go:


Liberty Institute (LINK)

20 posted on 06/13/2013 6:02:09 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Ay, ay, ay, ay.)
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To: PeteB570

By your logic this nation was founded by liars and cheats.


21 posted on 06/13/2013 6:02:34 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I bet we are of one mind on this one!


22 posted on 06/13/2013 6:03:15 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Future Snake Eater

If the kid had the courage of his convictions he would have presented the speech he wanted to give and said “Let me give it as is or pull me as speaker.”

By the way - did you ever graduate from the Q course?


23 posted on 06/13/2013 6:05:55 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Mouton

First thing, locate the nastiest, cut throat, crotch fighting lawyer in the state...


24 posted on 06/13/2013 6:06:19 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: PlanToDisappear
I guess this principle

I was always taught your principal was your pal.

Not anymore, if you beliebe in God and the Constitution.

25 posted on 06/13/2013 6:06:50 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You’d be having a beer with the chief of police while “the accident” happens.


26 posted on 06/13/2013 6:06:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: paterfamilias

How so in the Honor category?

He presented a speech that was approved and then gave another.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 6:07:30 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Joshua High School principal Mick Cochran threatened to write a letter
You can contact Comrade Cochran at:
28 posted on 06/13/2013 6:07:38 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PeteB570

No, he did not lie. Neither did he put the school or the district in a legal bind. He talked about the US Constitution. Whoever edited out his submitted text is either on a personal agenda binge or is a graduate of the National Enquirer School of Law. It is upside down thinking to blame the kid. Thinking like that would have told Frankiln, Jefferson, Washington et al to just “sit down and be sweet, ok?”.


29 posted on 06/13/2013 6:07:56 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: ilovesarah2012
at least the principle didn't threaten to have the kid's legs broken.

Did he?

30 posted on 06/13/2013 6:08:59 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: PeteB570

He just changed his mind...our PINO does it all the time.


31 posted on 06/13/2013 6:09:05 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Mouton

Y’all need to know that this guy rates right up yonder on folks that just need a good old azz whuppin. We still do that from time to time in Texas.


32 posted on 06/13/2013 6:09:50 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Repulican Donkey

From the article

“.......Reimer, a senior at Joshua High School, made national headlines on June 6 when officials cut off his microphone in mid-speech after he strayed from pre-approved remarks and began talking about his relationship with Jesus Christ......”


33 posted on 06/13/2013 6:09:58 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570
Sasser is kinda’ showing himself in a bad light. The service academies are all into that “honor and integrity” stuff.

After 5 years of Obama controlling senior-level appointments and promotions, and an anticipated three and a half more years of him, do not count on the service academy commander acting according to “honor and integrity”.

Obama and his cronies WILL make note of how this is handled.

34 posted on 06/13/2013 6:13:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I will have to agree with you on that one.


35 posted on 06/13/2013 6:14:33 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: massgopguy

Turn the problem over to a professional...


36 posted on 06/13/2013 6:15:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: PeteB570
If he presented a speech to the school that was approved - and then he read a different speech - it might be said that he lied.

Bingo!
I think that is exactly what happened in this case. The student clearly violated a rule the institution thought important. The school has the authority to enforce that particular rule, its action was not arbitrary or a deprivation of the student's right to free speech.

Most of us realize service schools and the military at large are all about rules, most especially when it comes to training its officers. As argued elsewhere on this forum, such a student should not be surprised if his appointment to a military academy is given a second consideration.

37 posted on 06/13/2013 6:17:21 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Public education these days is, above all, about compliance. The ‘best’ students are the compliant ones.

In this case, it looks like a rebel got through the system.


38 posted on 06/13/2013 6:17:51 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy ( Because police powers are essential to the public good that abusing them is so offensive.)
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To: PeteB570

“How so in the Honor category?”

“Midshipmen are persons of integrity. They stand for what is right.”

And, BTW, Mids take the same oath of office as all military officers: :...to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...”

They do not take an oath to roll over when some jacka$$ school administrator tries to restrict thought.


39 posted on 06/13/2013 6:19:54 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: oh8eleven

Looks like a real pissant


40 posted on 06/13/2013 6:20:44 AM PDT by albie
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To: ilovesarah2012

Without defending the high school principal in this, I have to ask if this student graduates from the Naval Academy then what is he going to do if he is given an order he doesn’t like?


41 posted on 06/13/2013 6:21:38 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: FatherofFive

If you’re going to correct someone’s spelling, I “beliebe” you’d better be pretty sure of your own first. ;)


42 posted on 06/13/2013 6:23:27 AM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: 0.E.O

Apples v Oranges! The Annaoplis grad takes an oath to follow orders. Last time I checked thesame was not required to graduate from high school. Additionally, “I was just following orders” is not a defense when the order is illegal or immoral, oath or no oath.


43 posted on 06/13/2013 6:26:37 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: PeteB570

It might be said that someone didn’t read the article.


44 posted on 06/13/2013 6:26:50 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: paterfamilias

So he lied to the school.

How would you feel if you went to the graduation and the speaker was a Muslim who had a preapproved speech that he threw in the trash as he stepped up to the mic - and then proceeded to give a half hour speech on Mohammed and Koran.

Would he be given the same Free Speech support here on FR?


45 posted on 06/13/2013 6:27:21 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: rwilson99

See my post # 8.


46 posted on 06/13/2013 6:28:34 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: oh8eleven

If he did that to my kid I would spend a while in jail after I beat his ares. He looks to be a poofer anyways or drunk.


47 posted on 06/13/2013 6:29:59 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 0.E.O

“I have to ask if this student graduates from the Naval Academy then what is he going to do if he is given an order he doesn’t like?”

An order he doesn’t like,,such as spy on US citizens in violation of the 4th Amendment? Like fire on TEA protesters? Like arrest TEA leaders under NDAA for criticizing the dear leader? Like ensure the trains full of Jews are given priority?

Zee orders must alvays be followed!/


48 posted on 06/13/2013 6:32:06 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: PeteB570

Me thinks this Mick Cochran dude needs a poke in the nose and swift kick in the ass, out the door of the school never to return.


49 posted on 06/13/2013 6:32:25 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: PeteB570

You have the choice of getting up and calling him/her down or leaving in droves. You are not chained to the chair. I don’t recall where anyone in this story left.

That is the risk you take ever time you attend any event where someone speaks. I have stood up in political speeches being given and walked out muttering contention as I went.


50 posted on 06/13/2013 6:33:01 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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