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FBI chief Mueller says spy tactics could have stopped 9/11 attack
The Guardian ^ | 13 June 2013 | Dan Roberts

Posted on 06/14/2013 7:21:15 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

The FBI has shrugged off growing congressional anxiety over its surveillance of US citizens, claiming such programs could have foiled the 9-11 terrorist attacks and would prevent "another Boston".

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, also revealed that US authorities would be taking action against whistleblower Edward Snowden for revealing the extent of its activities, confirming that the FBI and department of justice were taking "all necessary steps to hold the person responsible".

But Mueller's testimony before the House judicial oversight committee brought angry responses from many congressmen, who questioned whether such surveillance was lawful and demanded to know why it had failed to prevent the Boston bombing if it were so effective.

In a frequently heated debate over balancing privacy and security, Mueller went further than other government officials in claiming that the collection of data on all American phone calls had become an essential part of counter-terrorism efforts and would make the US "exceptionally vulnerable" if watered down.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: privacy
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To: LucianOfSamasota
And the NSA surveillance could also identify almost every illegal alien in the country, as well as those who employ them.

Also, the government claims it can't track down phone spammers who regularly violate telemarketing laws, but the NSA spy data certainly would expose them instantly.

Funny how Mr. Mueller says the spying could have stopped the 9/11 attack, but fails to mention all the other cases where by his own test the spying should have stopped an attack or allowed the government to enforce laws it says it can't enforce.

21 posted on 06/14/2013 7:34:50 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Theoria

Drips with irony doesn’t it.

“according to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter.” with him running the committee that investigated it, it may become the new “single bullet” of the JFK assassination.


22 posted on 06/14/2013 7:36:08 AM PDT by edcoil (When given a choice, take both.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

What a lying POS.

The FBI had the “20th Hijacker’s” laptop in their custody, but refused to look inside it, where the entire 9-11 plot was revealed.

As usual, pro-muslim PC overruled common sense.


23 posted on 06/14/2013 7:36:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Mark Levin destroyed this BS last night.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 7:37:21 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

What an asinine remark. Cutting off your leg can solve an infection that has been ignored for too long too.


25 posted on 06/14/2013 7:38:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

This guy is an out and out liar like the rest of them.


26 posted on 06/14/2013 7:39:16 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Some border security would have helped too. We’re allowing too many Muslims into the country. Eliminate Muslims and you eliminate almost all domestic terrorism.


27 posted on 06/14/2013 7:39:38 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Theoria

When Clinton learned Able Danger worked by working out patterns to terrorist attacks to stop future terrorist attacks, the same way they work out patterns to stop a serial killer, Clinton ended Able Danger.

The terrorist attacks are following the Weather Underground playbook.

There is a pattern to the news stories prior to the terrorist attacks and the spin to the news after the attacks and it’s Hillary that is orchestrating the news for the attacks and the spin after the attacks.


28 posted on 06/14/2013 7:39:50 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Sorry, Mr. Mueller, you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about. Your spying specifically EXCLUDES Muslim mosques...


29 posted on 06/14/2013 7:39:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

So would enforcing visa laws. So would profiling murderous muslime ba—ards at airports and other locales. So would a commitment to bombing these barbarians back to their caves.

In other words, there are LEGAL and acceptable ways to prevent these acts. Ways that don’t demand the sacrifice of liberty or wholesale disregard for the Constitution.

Which is why the obama administration has not even considered them.


30 posted on 06/14/2013 7:46:28 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Dead Corpse

Gorelick’s “wall” was put in place to thwart investigation into the ‘96 Clinton campaign getting $$$ from the ChiComs. The 9/11 attacks were an unintended consequence of her construct.


31 posted on 06/14/2013 7:46:36 AM PDT by Roccus (ABLE DANGER????.......What's an ABLE DANGER????)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

After listening to Mueller’s multiple grillings yesterday it’s apparent the man has no concept of what is going on within the FBI.

He doesn’t know who is leading particular investigations, the size or scope of the investigations or what has been accomplished. He only knows that a couple months prior to the Boston bombings the FBI went into a few mosques as a part of the FBI’s Outreach program.

How does he know they could stop anything? According to his own testimony he knows nothing. This guy is the intelligence community’s version of Seargent Schultz.

But let him and others continue to violate our constitutional protections and he’ll no doubt get it all figured out. ROTFL


32 posted on 06/14/2013 7:46:37 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: LucianOfSamasota

So could immigration enforcement, common sense, and actually listening to flight school telling you these guys don’t care about the landing.


33 posted on 06/14/2013 7:47:13 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Exactly.


34 posted on 06/14/2013 7:51:09 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: WayneS

The fact that they will not secure the border tells me they are not serious about terrorism. The rest is just fluff to cover spying on us...


35 posted on 06/14/2013 7:52:59 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Eric in the Ozarks ~:" Sorry, Mr. Mueller, you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about. Your spying specifically EXCLUDES Muslim mosques..."

(from the article title) FBI chief Mueller says spy tactics could have stopped 9/11 attack .

When you are looking in ALL the wrong places , you will never find the perp !


36 posted on 06/14/2013 7:54:10 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: grania

Failure to secure borders and enforce immigration law is our greatest danger as far as I am concerned.


37 posted on 06/14/2013 7:55:28 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“I don’t know” Mueller? The same Mueller who did a great Sgt. Schultz imitation at the hearing? Yeah, I believe him. sarc/


38 posted on 06/14/2013 7:57:26 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Cowboy Bob
"Eliminate Muslims and you eliminate almost all domestic terrorism"

NOT in the Muslim-in-Chief's mind...it's you white heterosexual Constitution-loving Christians that are the PROBLEM.

We can't even have Blacks arrested, because of the "disparate impact" in incarceration numbers. You can't even run Criminal Background checks on Blacks, according to Holder and the EEOC.

We've become a Nation that trashes Common Sense, and strip-searches 90-year-old grandmothers in airports, but can't have Burka-wearers touched.

39 posted on 06/14/2013 7:58:38 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Yeah, it the 9/11 attackers had been White grandmothers talking about recipes on the telephone. What a crock! The 9/11 hijackers were already in place for 3 years, and communicated with no one. They were a separate cell group operating independently, as the 9/11 commission has told us. They were here on falsified passports, had jobs, even took flying lessons here in the US. And the US policy was no profiling of Muslim Arab men between 17-49 years old, because CAIR would file a lawsuit against the US. So. no, the current spy tactics would not have stopped them. besides, Obama clearly has placed wiretapping Muslim Mosques, the breeding ground for terrorism, off limits and no racial profiling of Muslims. So the terrorists have a free ride to terrorize us


40 posted on 06/14/2013 7:59:34 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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