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Avenging the raisins [The Supreme Court strikes a blow for a free market]
The Washington Times ^ | June 12, 2013

Posted on 06/16/2013 12:55:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy

Since the grim days of the Great Depression, raisin farmers in California’s fabled San Joaquin Valley have raised their grapes under a food-regulatory regime that forces them to hand over a portion of their crop to the government, often without getting anything for it. The U.S. Supreme Court took a step, a big one, on Monday to give raisins something to dance about.

Like many New Deal programs, raisin rationing was instituted under the foolish belief that manipulating the market to raise the price of raisins would make more money for the growers and improve the valley’s economic health. Hence, the Raisin Administrative Committee, a cartel that dictates how much of the crop will be taken each year to reduce supply. In 2003, the government board dictated that 47 percent of the raisins grown that year would be confiscated with nothing for the growers. That was too much to swallow for Marvin and Laura Horne, farmers and processors in Fresno. Millions of pounds of raisins became the “fee” farmers had to pay to stay in business. The raisin board justified the scheme spending some of the loot on an advertising campaign. (You might have heard about it through the grapevine.)

The Hornes refused to hand over their raisins, calling the program “a tool for grower bankruptcy, poverty and involuntary servitude.” For refusing to go along with the scheme, the Hornes were fined $650,000, equivalent to the cash value of their raisins. They sued, arguing that the raisin law took their property without just compensation . . . .

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: raisins; sunmaid
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1 posted on 06/16/2013 12:55:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZe9OtFNt_8


2 posted on 06/16/2013 1:00:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 1rudeboy

3 posted on 06/16/2013 1:02:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jim Robinson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2OK_JaJ9I.

Our government at work.

4 posted on 06/16/2013 1:02:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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... Rather than handle the underlying constitutional issue, SCOTUS instead focuses on the venue issue, overturns that, and sends it back so that another few years can pass before the issue is once again before SCOTUS to argue the same exact case?

Good old running out the clock judicial action there. Hey, if we send this back to the 9th, they can try to twist the constitution into a pretzel, and maybe it might be back here. But in the mean time, we can give this outdated law another half decade of life, steal more production and go have drinks while the decision is being read!

Unbelievable that this has survived this long.


5 posted on 06/16/2013 1:05:05 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 1rudeboy

And it took a Supreme Court case to tell the nation about a practice that few would have suspected even existed.

Bad things are bad because... they fly in the face of God’s love. A God that wishes to bless everyone. Theft, which this comprised, is one of those bad things.


6 posted on 06/16/2013 1:10:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Let me give you a hint. Raisin farmer register and vote Democratic. How do I know? I married the farmer’s only daughter is how. If I named names, Jim Rob and others from the Valley would recognize them from the newspapers. The raisin farmers who are in on the scam like it a lot. That said, there is no good reason why this form of criminal association is legitimate/legal.


7 posted on 06/16/2013 1:16:20 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: 1rudeboy
In 2003, the government board dictated that 47 percent of the raisins grown that year would be confiscated with nothing for the growers.

Sounds like something Marx, and several big government loving Freepers, would support.

8 posted on 06/16/2013 1:18:41 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: RKV
I posted this Milton Friedman quote yesterday:

With some notable exceptions, businessmen favor free enterprise in general but are opposed to it when it comes to themselves.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 1:25:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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One more example of why the United States must end all subsidies to farmers.


10 posted on 06/16/2013 1:31:17 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: RKV
When i was a kid there were always plenty of raisens at a modest price. Today I have difficulty finding boxes on the shelves at any price.

Seems to me the raisen grower marketing board screwed up.

11 posted on 06/16/2013 1:31:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kingu

“Good old running out the clock judicial action there.”

These worthless bastards ( and bastardettes) on the SCOTUS are the biggest disgrace of all!

I worked in a Del Monte peach cannery while attending UC Berkeley ( yeah, I know, I’ve spent a lifetime trying to expunge my record). We had a USDA “inspector” in the cannery “diverting” fruit to the waste bin “in order to keep the price of peaches up.” The idea that with people around the world needing food, we engage in these practices is simply disgraceful!


12 posted on 06/16/2013 1:49:21 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: RKV

Name begins with an M, doesn’t it.


13 posted on 06/16/2013 1:50:52 PM PDT by thecodont
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That extreme reasoning was too much for a principled liberal, and Justice Elena Kagan asked whether the court should send the case back to a lower court to determine whether the raisin program was either an unconstitutional taking or “the world’s most outdated law.”

Well it is definitely unconstitutional.

As for being outdated it has always surprised me that these federally instituted cartels hadn’t been struck down decades ago.

But for most of the last 80 years these laws did have certain benefits; only so many farms were permitted to grow raisins almonds and so on.

So I guess at long last the government reached to far for this farmer and he rebelled against the system.

14 posted on 06/16/2013 1:58:42 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
Well it is definitely unconstitutional.

With any luck that dumb twit might inadvertently get an argument going to would result in overturning Wickard v Filburn, and great swaths of federal bureaucracy will be at risk of losing their claimed constitutional authority to exist.

15 posted on 06/16/2013 2:04:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: thecodont

Actually ends with “ian.” Family settled around Del Rey. Some branches of the family active in Sun Maid - others independent packers. That’s enough dot connecting for the locals. ;>)


16 posted on 06/16/2013 2:06:53 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: 1rudeboy

And don’t forget peanuts and sugar. After all, if Jimmah Cahtah had had to actually grow peanuts to make a profit we might have been spared the specter of him as POTUS and then as an all-knowing ex-POTUS. And without a sugar subsidy, Puerto Rico would either become an independent nation or our fifty-first state rather than a commonwealth in which people are entitled to benefits without paying fedearl income taxes!!


17 posted on 06/16/2013 2:10:37 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: muawiyah

What you’re describing as a bug, is a feature to some. I’m with you though. Limiting supply artificially through coercive means is not what we ought to be doing. Time to end the cartel and farm subsidies in general. We do quite enough with water projects, roads and other capital expenditures without direct payments for growing (or not!) crops. For God’s sake, the WW2 mohair subsidies are still in effect.


18 posted on 06/16/2013 2:11:43 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: 1rudeboy

I just E-mailed a buddy of mine that is from Fresno who’s brother is still running the family raisin farm. I would like to see what he says about this.


19 posted on 06/16/2013 2:19:47 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obama; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: tacticalogic

Takes just a few hundred people to regulate the ‘marketing board’ system. My understanding is that most of the players are in the private sector.


20 posted on 06/16/2013 2:28:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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