Russia's Birth Rate up 30% Since 2007

Moscow Times ^ | 06/20/2013 | RIA Novosti

[TexGrill]

Global business tip

[Pinkbell]

One of the reasons for Russia’s low birth rate or an insight into the attitude towards children there is that the abortion rate is (I believe) the highest in the world.

It’s sad to me that the government has to provide incentives to have children, but when I’ve seen interviews from countries like South Korea and Japan, countries that also have birth rates below replacement level, their excuse is that it’s too expensive to have children.

The United States is currently below replacement level, aided by the immigrants:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323375204578270053387770718.html

[Eagles6]

Russia is incentivizing births while obama incentivizes infanticide.

msm was just joyously proclaiming that White births are down and Whitey will be a minority ( less than 50%) by 2050.

They fortunately don't understand that paradigm can change, literally, overnight.

[Eagles6]

See post #3.

[x_plus_one]

Moscow is 30 percent moslem. The Christian birthrate isn’t up 30 percent.

[cunning_fish]

>>>>One of the reasons for Russia’s low birth rate or an insight into the attitude towards children there is that the abortion rate is (I believe) the highest in the world.<<<<

In fact Russian abortion rates reduced six-fold since the fall of communism in 1992.

[ClaytonP]

The total fertility rate in Russia went from 1.416 to 1.84.

FYI replacement rate is 2.1 and TFR among American whites is 1.9

Not much to brag about, their population is still going to decrease.

[ClaytonP]

Russia is experiencing a "dead cat" bounce in birth rates, and it won't last.

From the above chart you can easily see: The post war baby boom ages 45-65 and then the "baby bust" valley that occurred from 1965-1980 (ages 30-45)

Then look at ages 20-30, The (echo) children of the boomers are now in their prime reproductive years. This is why you are seeing a marginal uptick in birth rates. However, the "boomer echos" are not having as many children

In 15 years most females in Russia will be beyond their reproductive phase and that is when the population pyramid gets ridiculously top heavy.

[Slings and Arrows]

How many of these new babies are named Mohammed?

[urbanpovertylawcenter]

Tea Party members have a baby or better have a couple of extra.

Numbers will win.

Ready, set, breed!

[Bigg Red]

Ready, set, breed!

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Sounds like a plan.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thanks for this info. Interesting that abortions plunged after the fall of Communism. Excuse my dumb question, but what does "the abortion rates reduced sixfold" mean? Does it mean that there are now 1/6 the number of abortions per year??

According to what I've read, "In 1991, the year of the fall of the Soviet Union, a record of about 3,608000 abortions were performed in Russia...Official statistics put the number at 989,000 in 2011, though Russian pro-life activists say that number is much higher." Abortion in Russia (Link)

That's quite a huge plunge (if the stats are accurate), a drop of over 70%. But how is it six-fold?

Can you help me out with a link or an explanation?

[cunning_fish]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/02/09/russias-abortion-rate-is-rapidly-converging-with-western-europes/

There is a chart inside.

[grania]

Ready, set, breed!

Sounds like a potential line for guys at conservative rallies. (to replace the "high protein" line from the '60s)

[Ben Ficklin]

WSJ is cherry picking the numbers.

You need to go to a consistent and comprehensive source, like the CIA Factbook. Additionally the website, Index Mundi, has accumulated many years of CIA Factbook statistics.

Most demographers don't use that same methodology on fertility rates which is based on all women of all ages and includes a fudge factor based on untimely deaths. Nobody actually knows what the untimely death rate is. They use the 0.1 as in 2.1 but it could be more or less than 0.1.

Instead, demographers use or define the fertility rate as the birth rate of women of child bearing age

And it is not just the fertility rate that is important. Russia has a negative population growth rate while the US has had a pop growth rate of O.9 to 1.0 percent per year for many years, which they achieve with a birth rate plus immigration rate minus a death rate.

Canada has the same pop growth rate as the US which they achieve with a lower birth rate than the US but a higher immigration rate than the US.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Mormons got it right! Lots of babies! The full quiver idea. Well, I read that women who have babies and breast feed their infants have fewer instances of breast cancer! Having children makes one less selfish too. Let minorities do the abortion thing!

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thanks, good chart --- still don't know where the 6-fold comes from. But I'll not quibble about it: accurate figures are hard to come by, and there's always a dozen statistical ways to slice them.

Bottom line, everybody agrees that the Russian abortion rate in, say, 1992 was atrocious, and that ---while still way higher than ours --- it has dropped dramatically since then.

[cunning_fish]

Btw, Russian health officials counts miscarriages as abortions. They are using common term ‘terminated pregnancy’. It contributes to atrocious rates a lot.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I know the figures are accordion-like, squeezed one way and tugged out to the limit in another. For instance, some EU countries (I’m thinking Holland) have High School girls go for a “menstrual extraction” if their period is late -— this is without any pregnancy test. Hence, if there was no diagnosis of pregnancy, what happened with the shoosh of the vacuum machine cannot legally be called an abortion.

Impossible to meaningfully compare stats when you don’t have uniform definitions or reporting requirements.

[MSF BU]

If my wife is Han Chinese and I am Irish/English/French/German does that make our kids white or nonwhite or???