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Is Rand Paul’s Love of Ayn Rand a ‘Conspiracy’? (Chait: Why Ayn Rand is Evil)
New York Magazine ^ | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 06/20/2013 12:48:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: DManA

Mom is dead.

She didn’t live to see me complete my FIFTH COLLEGE DEGREE, not that she would have cared. Only the first was “practical,” said she, so the rest were self-indulgences.


61 posted on 06/20/2013 1:53:02 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
not that she would have cared.

I know how she felt.

62 posted on 06/20/2013 1:59:04 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

You’re a Palin supporter, right?

“I don’t need none of that book learnin’ I got common sense!”


63 posted on 06/20/2013 2:01:01 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: nickcarraway

The Founders distrusted DEMOCRACY.... what a dolt .... that is why they constructed a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC


64 posted on 06/20/2013 2:02:05 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: ozzymandus

Rand collected Social Security in her old age. The left uses this to club her. Apparently so do some here. The similarity between some freepers and the MSNBC loons is amusing.

Of course they forget that compulsury taxes is extracted from people working age till Social Security collection age.

I hope to never collect social security, mainly becaue of my ideals, but I will probably not because the system will be broke/ collapsed by then anyways...


65 posted on 06/20/2013 2:02:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: warchild9

Pardon me if I don’t share my history with you at this time.


66 posted on 06/20/2013 2:03:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: warchild9

Less than 1% of the cultists...and her writing is godawful. Really really bad. You will learn 10x reading Buckley, and he’s funny.

I recommend Mark Steyn for the Humour!


67 posted on 06/20/2013 2:03:33 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: BroJoeK

you are kind


68 posted on 06/20/2013 2:03:37 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: warchild9

I have read every word....and most of what you say is prattle


69 posted on 06/20/2013 2:04:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: GraceG

Actually, he’s pretty funny, too. More slapstick, less verbal than Buckley.


70 posted on 06/20/2013 2:06:10 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9

why do you bother to even post on FR since you feel you are oh sooooo much more gifted and intelligent than use poor little peons


71 posted on 06/20/2013 2:06:37 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Been using your thesaurus?

Women prattle, Mr. Manliness. I troll.


72 posted on 06/20/2013 2:07:02 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Nifster

Trolling is fun for us polysyllabic types.

I save my serious discussions for strangers who DON’T butt into my business to insult me.


73 posted on 06/20/2013 2:08:06 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: mjp

It is important to remember that Ayn Rand came to her philosophy by being raised in the Soviet Union at the height of repressive communism and the complete failure of ANY church to stand against it.


74 posted on 06/20/2013 2:08:45 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: nickcarraway
1) This is written by the Jonathan Chait who wrote the famous "I hate President George W. Bush" column for the New Republic back in 2003. By definition, he doesn't have much to contribute. Not that I liked Bush myself, but political discussion has to rise above that level and Chait doesn't.

2) If Chait voted for Barack Obama who was attending Marxist conferences about the time Rand Paul was reading Ayn Rand, he's already demonstrated that this stuff isn't that important to him. Politicians evolve. Ask the same questions about those you vote for as those you vote against. If Chait was willing to take a chance on Obama in spite of Frank Marshall Davis and all the rest, isn't he being hypocritical not to give Paul the same benefit of the doubt?

3) People take from Rand what they want or need. Even Ronald Reagan called himself an "admirer" of Rand. I don't think he went whole-hog or that Rand Paul does either. She had an admirable side. Not everything she said was horrible or monstrous. Some of it was just good sense. She opposed some things that were worth opposing when not everybody did. Finding somebody who later became a politician quoting Rand saying basically what the Founders or George Orwell would have said isn't very damning.

75 posted on 06/20/2013 2:12:05 PM PDT by x
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To: Nifster

It is important to remember that Ayn Rand came to her philosophy by being raised in the Soviet Union at the height of repressive communism and the complete failure of ANY church to stand against it.

Quoted for complete and total TRUTH!

LBJ has killed the Churches in this country and Neutered their resolve to stand up against evil.... Only the “Black Robe Regiment” can save the churches now...?


76 posted on 06/20/2013 2:21:18 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: warchild9

I’ve read three of her novels, and a number of her essays, and I’m not one of her cult. I think you underestimate her influence on conservatism. BTW, I’ve also read Buckley, Milton Friedman, Bill Simon(Sr.), Robert Ringer, and some Hayek.


77 posted on 06/20/2013 2:23:37 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: x

I think what impresses new readers of Rand is the shock of recognition they get from her antagonists. Each of her bad guys has a counterpart in people running the country today. She understands statists perfectly and she understands where statism leads.

When you read about the car trip to the ruined Wisconsin city that was home to the defunct car plant, my god, she is describing Detroit 50 years in the future.


78 posted on 06/20/2013 2:26:35 PM PDT by DManA
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To: warchild9

“Call “lame” all you want. I’ll bet you don’t even know who Rothbard is.”

Lew Rockwell seems to like him a lot.


79 posted on 06/20/2013 2:31:20 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Daveinyork

Let you in on a secret...reading Hayek, for the most part, is better than camomile tea if you’re having trouble settling at midnight.

And Rand was a decent essayist. She was writing for an entirely different audience, then. Much more accessible...and she remembers what paragraphs are for.

There’s a small, hard-core, unthinking cult here on FR that rose around her about 2002-2003 or so. A real bunch of loons, then and now. You’ve been around long enough to remember their rise and ceaseless noise, hm?

Most of her followers are barely literate. I love flushing them out; they’re so easily irritated, but not very clever.


80 posted on 06/20/2013 2:31:42 PM PDT by warchild9
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